How bad are porn thoughts compared to actual porn?

Like if you ended up masturbating and thought about porn like scenarios while masturbating. How damaging is this compared to masturbating to porn?

 

So masturbating for 5 minutes imagining porn like scenarios is just as damaging as going on an edging session masturbating flicking about hundreds of different porn content for over an hour ext?

 

Is this only for someone recovering from PIED and porn addiction? Or are you in the opinion masturbating using your imagination before high speed internet came along was actually basically as damaging as masturbating to porn on highspeed internet?

 

I actually try to cut out masturbation as well as porn and artificial sexual stimulation. But I don't take stopping masturbation as seriously as stopping porn and artificial sexual stimulation. If I do end up masturbating I usually try to think of realistic scenarios. But I think it is difficult to know exactly what realistic scenarios are sometimes, and sometimes I can think of more kinky stuff, maybe even more porn like scenarios.

But yeah earlier I did end up thinking about something really kinky when I was masturbating. I guess it was a porn like scenario. But it was over in 5 minutes. Usually when I masturbate to porn it lasts an hour, and it is flicking about hundreds of different content.

 

I agree. But in my opinion it isn't causing anywhere near the same level of damage as actually edging, binging on PMO.

Like I said, when I masturbate using my imagination it's over in 5 minutes. But on porn and artificial sexua stimulation it usually lasts at least an hour, edging, masturbating flicking about hundreds of different content before I ejaculate. I do believe the level of pleasure from doing it to porn is much greater than to using my imagination as well.

Trying to think of realistic fantasy is tricky if you do decide to masturbate. It's difficult to know wither or not your thinking of more of a porn like scenario or a porn like scenario.

 

Does going completely without porn and artificial sexual stimulation not really count for anything then, if you still continue to occasionally masturbate?

 

I can tell from how much more pleasure I get from PMO, and how much longer I spend edging and binging on PMO that it is much more damaging than MO. But yeah it's just some people on this are basically saying there's not much difference between the two.

and if there is guys that MO I doubt there is many that don't fantasize about something while they're masturbate. I find it very difficult to know how porn like some of my thoughts are. Like is imagining I am kinky sexual stuff with a hot woman I know in real life considered realistic fantasy or porn fantasy?

I feel like if stuff like that is considered porn fantasy, then it is near impossible to fantasize about much and it not being considered porn fantasy.

 

Exactly. Like is it realistic fantasy if I am fantasizing imagining that I am having sex with a hot babe from my hometown? But if I fantasize imagining I am having sex with a porn star then it is not realistic fantasy, and it is porn fantasy?

How does that make any sense?

This is what I mean by how do you know if it is realistic fantasy or porn fantasy?