How come a lot of women think of us men as creeps and perverts?

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  1. zeke27

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    • *DISCLAIMER: I am not a sexist man, I don't hate women, I am an advocate of sex fairness, that both sexual genders are unique and have qualities, that men must treat women right, care about them and vice versa, I just want to understand this kind of situations and improve in social environments. I don't mean offense to anyone, we're here to help each other and have constructive critics.

    As said above guys, in my life, 21 yrs as I'm writing this, I've seen and heard so many young girls and mature women see us men as creeps and perverts. I mean, every human being has sexual desire, every human being has had sexual fantasies, every one of us, men and women, have masturbated at least once, in this era, most of the people of both genders have watched porn, I understand that there are some men that behave in a bad way, staring girls in a rash way for a prolonged time, masturbating all day long and thinking that women are just sexual objects to satisfy them, I understand that point and why so many women see us as perverts that only want to have sex with them. Sex is part of a relationship but not the relationship itself.

    If I'm a guy with good intentions approaching a girl, just to talk and get to know her, I'm not thinking of her as a potential partner, just I want to know her, we're social beings, we talk, we develop bonds with others, and when these types of girls see you coming they just immediately label you as a man that is a pervert that masturbates and watches porn! Is not always like that, not all of us are like that, that wouldn't be right. Just as the opposite, what would girls think if we men thought about them as gold diggers for example? Or hysterical beings? Not all are like that, we are diverse.

    Note: when I was in High School, some of the girls from my course labeled so many of us as perverts, even though they watched porn in the school in secret and some even shared it with us. Surely they also masturbated in their houses.
     
  2. modern milarepa

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    Well I didn't read the thread but just for the title, yes a lot of men are perverts and creeps.

    Just like you being a porn addict you are a pervert and a creep.
     
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  3. zeke27

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    I advise you to read it, the title is just the tip of the iceberg
     
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  4. modern milarepa

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    OK you made me read it, this just shows you don't understand how women think, first of all it's a matter of statistics so if most men are perverts probably any man can be one.

    Other thing is women see a quality or some character traits in a man and if other man shows similar qualities then she inmediatly thinks this new guy is just like the other one which can be very far from the truth.

    So they lack in character analysis because they rely on memory more in what they are seeing with their eyes.

    Women in a way think they have all men figure out and in a way they kind of do. There are very few men in terms of love, sexuality that are different from most men.

    Also they been hurt, lied to, so they are very careful when dealing with men. Also they are very smart in manipulating men.

    But just take into account most women are close minded about men for a lack of deep analysis, relying on memory, sometimes on a false sense of intuition.

    Memory can be useful and for the most part women are more experienced and skilful in dealing with affairs of the world than men.

    But if a person goes out of what they usually think a man is, they for the most part are exceptical or unable to see what the person really is. They don't accept it.

    It can be frustrating but it is how it is.
     
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  5. modern milarepa

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    But if they spend enough time with you, they certainly can change their minds but be careful if dealing with very close minded women which most of them are because this shows lack of intelligence and perhaps a psychological trauma and a lack of trust in men. So she won't trust you or love you.
     
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  6. Rev2.0

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    It's pretty simple. If they think you're attractive they'll respond positively to your approach or at worst, be neutral. If they don't think you're attractive, you’ll be seen as a creep. That's why it's imperative to 1) be the best version of yourself you can be physically at all times... no "slob days" and 2) become an expert at reading women's nonverbal attention/attraction signals and bail if you're getting the no-go signs. If you're on point with these two things you'll be OK but if not, it's going to be a long lonely slog the way women have been conditioned to see things today.
     
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  7. zeke27

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    well yes, that is true. Some traumas end up affecting other people that don't have nothing to do with oneself. The thing is here, I'm talking about hypocrisy, like I said, in my school there was a group of girls that besides from calling us perverts (I assume they called us like that because they supposed that we were masturbators teenagers) and not having any proof to call us like that. And the worst part is that they also watched porn hidden and I'm sure they also masturbated.
     
  8. zeke27

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    They have been conditioned? Or do they just think like that?
     
  9. p1n1983

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    You can be a major pervert, the most creep guy in earth but.... if a woman is attracted to you then she is going to see you as a cute guy, worth dating.
    On the other hand, no matter how good guy with good moral you are. If you approach a woman that is not attracted to you she is going to feel unconfortable, some feminist will call it arrasment, and you will be seen as a creep no matter what.

    it is the way it is..
     
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  10. This idea, in my opinion, is not going to stop you from getting a gf.

    Sure, women seem to throw out the notion at times that certain things
    a guy does is "creepy".

    Don't get in your head about it, it's not true.

    If you want to meet a girl for a date, you will overcome that by being confident.

    All you need to do is just be interested in her.

    Move in and get close, touch her, touch the small of her back.

    If she asks you a question, just say yes or no, then return the focus on her.

    Smile, stand up with good posture, throw in one or two clean jokes.

    You'll fill up your dance card before you know it.
     
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  11. Jaime1978

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    I've met some woman that are worse than men they are not as open about sex as men are
     
  12. Rev2.0

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    It's conditioning, at least for women in the U.S. today. #metoo, etc plus the prevalence of radical feminism and generally anti-traditional values promoted by the mainstream media. Women a generation ago were much less guarded and more trusting and more sweet and feminine overall. Some of those still remain but they're few and far between and almost nonexistent under the age of 30. I'm not saying women don't need to be cautious but it seems like a lot of them think there's a predator around every corner and they respond accordingly to attention from men in general.
     
  13. zeke27

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    Yeah it’s right. I don’t have anything against women being guarded but what I mean is that a woman shouldn’t accuse anyone without proof of being a pervert.
     
  14. In my opinion, if a woman cannot show up in court and prove it,
    then it's not real.
    Because rape and molest, could be proven, that stuff is wrong.

    But the woman who calls a guy a creep, just because she has
    that impression, by seeing him?

    No, that doesn't mean anything and a guy should never let that be a factor.

    A man needs to go out into the world and be a warrior.

    To be a warrior, he has to ignore the static and keep fighting and trying hard.
     
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  15. zeke27

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    Yeah well, that's what I mean. Some women call you a pervert without any proof to say that but, as you said, we have to keep trying and don't mind those kind of people.
     
  16. modern milarepa

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    For example yesterday I was talking to this girl at dancing classes and we saw a black man in the beginners class. Which is not so common in my city because all black people know how to dance almost since little babies they practice and are amazing at it.

    The girl told me she was surprised because all black men are full of pride and it's surprising to see him there.

    She just states that all black men are prideful which most of them are tbh where I live, specially with dancing. But you can see that whenever she encounters a black person she will think he is prideful because she met previous black men that where that way. So by some general traits she assumes a all race is that way.
     
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  17. I believe this is just immaturity or signs they've have problems in the past. Possibly past trauma that make them believe all men are perverts. I've had a friend confront me in a classroom in high school that I had an Asian "fetish" and of course the gal had no filter, one really cute girl was in our class too, she heard her say it. I believe she completely destroyed my chance. I did feel completely embarrassed.
    Woman aren't as innocent as men. Especially when you view snapchat, they post photo's , etc. Especially for gain and fame. But the thing is they want to be seen for popularity. I'm not sure why people have this ego really I don't understand it. But a man or woman can make a "comment" along the lines that may lead to this decisive thinking. But if you post junk like that you are asking for it. Along the lines society is sensitive.
     
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  18. I think it was wrong of her to just assume, don't all people have pride? Not just a specific race? As society is how it is, the nation is really separating people.

    I had a situation at a wedding a few months ago. One of the Grooms men showed up later, he was a Asian. I had a gut feeling that he was going to brake dance during the Dancing when they removed the tables. Non the less he did... I told my friend since he teaches dancing. I said to him " I didn't want to say anything but I knew it." But I had nothing against him... He was very nice and chilled out guy.
     
  19. no matter how old or young you are men and women not all but parts of society get jaded and then they change their minds, over time, the ebb and flow of our minds work through ignorant thinking, there are lots of people out there who think the opposite of this and love each other. if there is a mode of thinking there is always an opposite.
     
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  20. zeke27

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    Yeah maybe, we as men the world think of us as chronic masturbators who began at an early age. Idk why is this since women also masturbate, have sexual desire and some of them watch porn too. My point is, I know the great majority of us watched porn compulsively and we engaged in this behavior but that doesn't necessarily make us a pervert since we want to overcome this behavior.
     
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