How do you view women??

Yup... everyone has a right to wear what they want, but that doesn't mean they have to make it hard for us. Not trying to start a debate here, but people need to understand it from our point of view. Men trying to live and act Saint like.

~Squeaky Soul

 

Porn has become mainstream in our culture because men can't get enough of it, and now you're saying women are to blame for where your eyes go, because they're wearing clothing that's part of mainstream culture.

Right.

Yoga pants prank.

 

hahaha! That was funny. Thanks for the link. That dude was down for a fight!

Well, men and women think and respond differently. I am not sure about women, but men are for sure more stimulated by sight. What I know is that looking away is very hard sometimes, and I usually feel guilty, even when I accidentally look, you know? I know we all say we are in control of our actions, but a lot of times it seems looking is automatic and I have to even though I don't want to. Men really have to fight themselves with claw and tooth to not look.

I just I hope I grow out of this so I can stop feeling so bad. I am not sure if men are just hardwired to do this, but I have been struggling with this a lot recently. I have rebooted from PMO, now it's just a matter of learning how to control myself.

I am not blaming women, I do agree with you about the porn industry. It's because of porn I used to have anxiety everyday, lost most of my friends, and my past suicidal thoughts (I had the gun right there ). It's so messed up.

Thank you for voicing your opinion Also, congratulations on the 40 days! There's nothing I can do about our mainstream culture, so now I must learn how to live in it

~Squeaky Soul

 

Thanks!

I've often wondered if men are more sensitive to visual stimulation because they start looking at porn at such a developmental age, that they train their brains to respond.

I saw a documentary - I wish I could remember it and share a link - where brain researchers wanted to test awareness of arousal. They got (straight) men and women test subjects to view videos of sexual intercourse of animals, and of hetero, gay and lesbian humans. They fitted the test subjects with equipment to measure their physical arousal and then asked them to list which videos their body had responded to.
Men listed straight and lesbian videos, and the equipment agreed.
Women listed straight videos, but the equipment measured arousal to everything. Even the animals.

So i dunno that men are more visually stimulated, but they're certainly more aware of it. Maybe women are better at repressing it, maybe because our genitals are tucked away from sight, or maybe because we (historically) have more to lose if we don't repress (the whole slut/stud double standard thing).

But i don't envy how difficult it is for you. Women's clothing is designed to make us look and feel attractive. Good luck

 

yes pervert zombie is the right description.

i see dolls created for dirty sex - nothing else.

what they feel and what they think doesnt matter.

and yes i hate women looking not like pornstars!

my brain is destroyed by watching porn and believing that the interaction between man and woman in porn is normal. it is not normal!

it is ill interaction degrading woman to an object for abuse!

i am not against sex. i am against porn!

 

How do I view women? It's a bad way to watch their butt and when I've watched their faces I've imagined them giving me oral sex, trying to imagine their boobs... nipples, the "cameltoe" and trying to left to do it of course, the way is so hard as you can see, and I'm trying to left this...

 

I was just at a wedding the other day and all the women their were pretty much 9's and 10's . .I hate to rate women like a number but truly they were hot. It was actually torture being there too because most of them were flaunting their bodies and wearing short skirts, cut tops etc..
That being said, I was just thinking about our current fashions, especially womens fashions and how they are designed to just show a womens body in a way that would make guys want to stop and stare. Even with yoga pants that is a phenomena that I can't get past. Yoga pants are truly my weakness and whoever invented them is a genius, however they are a BIG trigger for me. If I see a girl in yoga pants it's not good for me. Most of the time a woman really doesn't have to be wearing anything sexy or showing too much to turn me on. Sometimes it's just my porn brain undressing her with my eyes. The real problem is in our hearts and minds. We must control our minds and then that will control our behaviors.

 

It is a catch 22 for women. Most women don't want to be looked at a certain way. But for some reason they continue to wear clothes they KNOW will cause a guy to look at them for too long. This is a catch 22. Hard to stop of course, but really something we all have to deal with in our society.

 

Well I am only 13 days into the challenge, but already seeing results. Before the challenge all I ever thought when I saw a hot girl is how I bang her and throw her asap, now its a bit different, I actually want a beautiful girl not only to bang, but also wake up next to her the following morning and have breakfast with her etc etc

 

While I haven't really struggled with fantasizing about women I see - at least not for a long time, I have begun to realize that I tend to avoid speaking with women who don't have any sex appeal to me. I have avoided potential relationships because I did not think the girl was pretty enough for me. In the end I am hurting myself; robbing myself of possible friendships and relationships. I am 20 years old now and I have only ever been in one relationship and it was a long distance relationship. I wonder if I would have ever initially talked to the girl I dated if we had met in real life. I met her on a chat site and fell in love with her personality. Looks are not what hold relationships together. Pursuing women for superficial reasons will lead to superficial outcomes. My desire for myself is to not seek out women based on looks, but instead based on a genuine interest in getting to know them.

 

Yep. And I fell for it, I am starting to realize that, that is not the wave.

With regards to respond to how do you view women?

Still as sexual beings. BUT a little less now, more as simply another human being. Porn distorted this greatly. I used to replay scenes of it in my head if I ever had sex. I also saw them as parts.

 

As a woman I can say that sometimes I take advantage of my body... I dress at a certain way, talk dirty sometimes (like dirty jokes- cause I know guys will love that) and stuff like that. I remember that I used to look way below average and hated myself for not looking like that... Actually I found out that it wasn't just a feeling- to everyone else I WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. only after I've changed the way I look and became more attractive suddenly everyone started smiling at me and given me a fair treatment. Like any other girl deserves. It's a pretty sad case about how our society is preaching "it's what on the inside that counts" yet do the exact opposite. I do blame the porn industry, because somehow the world thinks it's legit just so we can satisfy our urges without feeling wrong.

 

Hmm that's a shame you hated women for not looking like a porn star. I've been addicted and never saw it like that. I think my ex gf had a lasting effect on me though because she was a bit chubby and really cute and I still have a soft spot for her so I seek out girls like that but I do still lust over skinny girls. Also the whole sexualised thing also applies to men as well, there's women who'll think about men the same way so us men aren't all that bad if you can't help but steal a glance or two at that girls bum in yoga pants.