how the hell do u date women with face masks?

This is probably not going to sound like much but in the old days women did wear those veils where you'd only be able to see their eyes, I guess it could be like that.

Have you tried online dating recently? I haven't looked at it in forever I'm just curious what people are saying. I actually don't think a specific dating agenda is the best way to go, in my mind ideally you just meet people and get to know them in a variety of contexts, not just always dinner and a movie or something generic. Maybe volunteering, I don't know - that says something about a person at least. But there just isn't as much of a concept of a normal public space, I mean the closest we get is like Starbucks or something which is commercialized instead of something like a town square where people just normally and naturally have conversations. But people line up outside grocery stores...

 

Well like I said I don't think it is a great idea anyway, and of course people can get addicted to variety. People had good relationships before they had all this online access, and while some people may be having a lot of sex it's questionable whether they are happier for it. We're up against the dysfunctional "norms" of the culture and we are in the minority.

 

You know there was a time when people would meet in a chat room and decide they like each other and don't even know what they look like until they actually meet in person, and they would chat a LONG time before meeting and might end up getting married. Now even if that happened I don't know if people would understand that as a romantic thing, lots of people probably be like they can't wrap their heads around how that can happen if they don't have a visual.

 

ha ha, stupid law. There is no way such thing could happen in my country. And if it happens nobody will respect it.

Dating with masks is awfull but you can have an online date where you can see her without a mask. If you like what you see you can go out with her mask on and after the date come back to your place or her, remove the mask and do what you want.

 

I think you could still date with a mask. You may not be able to see much of the face, but if you are looking to authentically get to know someone, I think having masks on for a small while wouldn’t be much of an inconvenience. As she trusts you, she could start taking the mask off more and more, which would mean a situation where she trusts you. Also Skype dates/FaceTime and standing 12 feet or 18 feet from each other??

 

We could just as easily replace the words "face mask" with facade. It is of course natural for people to want to present themselves in a certain way, but if the goal is any kind of intimate relationship that isn't limited to the physical then you are inevitably dealing with the psychological aspect of this - which is of course not really new.

I don't know about the PUA stuff but I guess it involves a certain level of psychological understanding, but it seems to me the challenge isn't to get women to take off their clothes, it's to get them to take off the mask they put on to be socially acceptable. I think people underestimate the value of being at ease so people feel comfortable to be themselves and show who they really are.

And while we can't all become psychologists, how many people do you think are freaked out in the world right now? You don't think people you might date have that going on, and that you need to be able to deal with that at least on a rudimentary level? It's not even about being a nice guy, it's an actual prerequisite at this point. With two people at least one of them need to have that understanding. It might be that both people having some appreciation of psychological understanding can make up for not being super insightful, but if neither have any awareness it can't help the chances of any kind of serious relationship. In THIS psychological climate?

 

Bro what is this bollocks. You want to date someone, but nah we are wearing masks?
Do you even listen to yourself?
No one cares whether or not you are wearing a mask. Women like men and as long as you are a man you are fine.
This thing with masks is just your pathetic excuse not to do jack squat.

Being cruel to be kind.

 

I feel the same. In a way I find that I'm okay with being alone right now when I spend my days doing my own thing. When I'm out in public for a long time I can get excited and horny when I see lots of women. The masks are a turn off and seem like a barrier to approaching women with confidence. I'm thinking monk mode is the way to go for awhile. I really got back into this on 4/8/20 and have had one relapse to just fapping 38 days in and one relapse to porn 64 days in and I see a lot of progress and improvement. I used to be run by pussy, now I'm all about creating music and videos and writing etc. I definetly feel your pain on all this mask bull shit, it sucks. Look into sex transmutation and building yourself. I used to be a guy trying to "get" women, now I'm becoming a good man for women and for myself. Try that out

 

Things people have said here matter but the bottom line... We can't ignore looks.

If you don't like the face of the person you are with, it's gonna become a problem eventually.

Face masks are a pain. Hopefully science and medicine make some progress to where we don't need masks as much.

 

Agreed, it really sucks not to be able to see beyond women's eyes and hair these days. What I've been trying to do is use this an opportunity to really work on eye contact and communicating nonverbally with my eyes. In one way it's actually helping because a woman might be drop dead beautiful or barely average but you can't really tell behind the mask so I'm tending to interact with them all more equally vs clamming up or getting weird with the gorgeous ones... which is what a grounded alpha male is supposed to be doing anyway.

It does seem like coronavirus is a big piece of some plot to keep men and women from connecting with each other physically anymore. I don't know the bigger agenda behind that, but rather than trying to figure it out I'm gonna keep working on myself and take personal wins where I can find them.

 

So has anyone actually been dating, whether online or in person, and want to report?

 

I've been going on outdoor dates taking a couple drinks to park when the weather has been good. Outdoors is easier because sitting down 2m away means less need for face masks.

Where its gonna be weird is like here in the UK, they are finally opening up indoor places like restaurants on pubs from 4th July and you will need a mask