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How to become manlier after years of PMO-induced feminization?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by MichaelJ, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Bro I don't know what is Jezebel but if something , especially press makes you feel shame or leads you to self-hatred you should definitely avoid it. Or read the other press. Dont allow yourself to things that interfere with your wounds, those things won't help you but will make you feel worse. I would do it like this. Don't give fuel for your hurt. Even if there are mysandrist articles on the internet. Firstly you need to work on yourself not on the others. And when you will be healed you can even start something like campaign against male abusing or against misandry to make this world better place. During recovery you will start to gain confidence, manliness and comfort with your gender. I know it sounds like distant future, but you just have made one big step, writing on this forum. So you are on your way.
     
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  2. Beopus

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    I'd recommend going to see an endocrinologist and a personal trainer to discuss lifestyle choices such as diet and exercise at this point then.

    There's fantastic new nasal surgeries for removing polyps and scars nowadays too. An ENT specialist can help you out with that. I've grown up with very blocked nasal passages myself, and understand that aspect of your pain. It's easier to enunciate and be understood with a higher voice when everything is blocked up. I'm over it though, no point bothering investing in people who can't see past things like that.
     
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  3. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    Man, I am sorry for your pain. You have obviously been through a rough ordeal. I do not know when it started or how long it lasted, but your wound is very deep. Retaliation and paying it back or paying it onto others does not help relieve your pain, it only multiplies it. Also, it helps no one else; it will only make the pain active and alive so it can continue to hurt you. It is like picking off the scab and reopening the wound. It will eventually get infected and really harm you. If you leave it alone, it can heal naturally. You spread good karma; you stop bad karma.

    Do you have someone you can talk with about your pain, about where it came from, someone who can help you work through it and get on with a healthy life? It could be a professional or a good friend.

    I checked the Jezebel site, but found nothing that was male bashing by mean/hurtful women. I know there could be some, but it is far from the majority of women. Women can be proud, but it is not the majority of them. There are men and women who enjoy bullying and humiliating others. I hope you do not learn their attitudes and behavior from them. There are much better models.

    Your grandmother was good to you. There are many women like her. I have a wonderful wife and a daughter. My mother was a loving woman who raised 5 children and took in orphans for months or years. I have seen women who were mean, but I was blessed by very good models in my life.

    You will not bless your own life by concentrating on past pain. To enjoy our present, we have to work through and leave our past. Otherwise we drag it with us, it wears us down, and we cannot enjoy the present life and joy that surrounds us. You deserve more. They hurt you when you were younger and weaker. Now you are hurting yourself and keeping yourself weak. It takes a strong man to move on and leave bad times behind. I hope you will be able to do that and enjoy your future.
     
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  4. Mateo89

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    Wise words from an older member on here.
     
  5. Paleblood

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    How can you judge an adult for the actions of a child? Do we say we don't trust you because you pmoed when you were a teenager? So why would you judge women because they were cruel to you when they were teenagers?
     
  6. MichaelJ

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    Many women are cruel even now.
    Btw, I always relapse around day 5, and they say your testosterone is at peak levels at day 7 at least. No wonder that I didn't have time to become more masculine. I didn't give my body a break. But even these 5 day fastings had an effect - chest hair and bigger thight muscles.
     
  7. Mateo89

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    Michaelj, I don't think it has anything to do with your testosterone levels. When I first started NoFap, I got my testosterone levels and they were perfectly healthy, yet I was experiencing the worst PIED. I've deducted it down to it being a purely neurochemical issue. Its our reward system thats all jacked up and overheated.

    Mateo
     
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  8. MichaelJ

    MichaelJ Guest

    Yes. But it's not just that. Before I had a bald chest. Now I have some. Before I couldn't develop any muscles. Now I have. And I have the desire to train daily. Still depressed though. Next I'm gonna visit a doctor to get my hormones tested as suggested here. Cannot use Damiana or Tribulus at this time as they're MAOI and I can't eat such a restricted diet without a gf/wife cooking for me (not sexist, I just can't cook and hate it. I enjoy cleaning the house though and it gives me a high. :p)

    I avoid sleeping with my boxer briefs as they're like an oven lol. One negative is an oily skin patch on face with pimples.
     

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