How to quit porn when you feel like you still like it?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by I can I will I must, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. I can I will I must

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    After my last relapse I have watched porn everyday sometimes twice a day. I'm finally to the point where I know this will continue to destroy me if I don't quit. I have downloaded k9 to my laptop so I hope this will give me the strength I need to quit!!!
     
  2. aingdk11

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    Well thats good dont let it destroyed your life its just in matter of time it destroy you soon! 30yo here hardcore pmo addict since 15 yo already clean for 8 and planing never gonna back.i say my life would much better than right now if i didnt did one thing in the past that under influense of my pmo addcition.so bro dont be stupid just like i do life is amazing rather wastimg our time looking someone fucking on plastic gadget
     
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  3. ljbjdj

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    I am in the same boat. My poison for a couple of years has been pictures. Videos were good to get off quick, but searching for the best possible nude pictures I could find has always been my past time and it makes me sick now. I still like the pictures and looking at that stuff but I hate what it does to my life and that hatred trumps the porn desire. Maybe that will get better as I get further into my reboot?
     
  4. DemonSemen

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    Truth is you never get cured from a porn addiction. Like an alcoholic who can't drink anymore b/c one one drink could cause a total relapse, we have to stay away from the porn forever.

    Get rid of your stashes and stay offline. If you do feel like going to a porn site, come here instead and start reading up on the site. It helps to remind you of your objective.
     
  5. I follow your reasoning DemonSemen, but there is no data on this. As scientist Gary Wilson has explained, it is hard to find a control group to conduct research on masturbation and porn. So, we do not know about the long-term effects of a successful reboot. Alcoholism is not the same as porn addiction.
     
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  6. SuperFan

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    From a brain chemistry perspective, all addictions are the same. Whether it's food, drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling, workaholism, fanatical exercise ... they're all tied to the dopamine system, every single one. The only difference is to what degree they spike the system, and for how long.

    Not having data on something doesn't make it untrue. The earth was round long before anyone discovered that it was round. And even if some study came out claiming that recovered porn addicts could safely revisit porn in moderation, I think people like @DemonSemen would serve themselves well to ignore those studies and go with their gut instinct to abstain anyway.
     
  7. Maybe you know something I don't. I don't dispute that dopamine receptors are compromised in each addiction. I was under the impression that there is a physical craving for the substance of alcohol itself.
    I agree. I am just cautious with the certainty we make certain claims.
     
  8. DemonSemen

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    I agree 100%. Because addictions are near identical in their mechanics, it stands to reason that relapsing would follow a similar path among all addictions: the alcoholic can't drink anymore, the drug user can't have just one hit and the porn addict can't view just a few movies. To do so creates a gateway through which the addict becomes addicted again. Granted there may be no studies, but ask anybody at an AA, GA, SSA, et. Meeting and they will all tell you the same thing--to stay quit you have to stay off it completely.
     
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  9. DemonSemen

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    Is there research that backs up or disputes that porn addicts can eventually safely view and porn? I dunno--haven't seen it. Honestly, it doesn't matter.

    If I (or any other PA) never views porn again there's a pretty good chance we won't become addicted again.
     
  10. No. That was my point. There is no research on this.
    I have already said (above) I agree with this and my goal and intention and thought process is the same as yours. All I was trying to say was that I'd be more cautious about making bold statements about something which has not been measured via peer reviewed research.
     
  11. DemonSemen

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    Yeah. There's no research on it. Sexual addiction isn't even recognized by the APA as an actual condition. porn addiction study is in its infancy.

    Science is often as reliable as religion. For every study showing A there is a study showing A is wrong. Look at the FDA. You think I trust those fuckers for a minute? Hell nah. My statements may be bold but that's how I roll. And I can tell ya I've been thoroughly reviewed by some of my peers (cue 80s porn music).
     
  12. GG2002

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    I'm not citing any data but just my personal observation if something got to the point with a person that they lost control of their ability to make conscious choices and caused issues in their life I can't see how they could possibly go back and watch just a little and be okay? Or why for that matter they would even want to? To me the fact that anyone would be uncomfortable with the thought of giving it up for life means they have issues! This does not have to apply to addiction but anything. I'm sorry I guess maybe it's because I'm female but if one is not an addict, I don't understand what the big deal is about giving it up? Men lived perfectly fine lives with no porn for centuries?
     
  13. SuperFan

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    Well, of course there is, but it's only because the addict has conditioned himself to respond to that particular stimulus. In the end, no one is actually addicted to alcohol, or drugs, or anything else--they're addicted to the way the brain responds to those stimuli. Physically,they're addicted to the flood of dopamine, and psychologically, they're addicted to the way it medicates uncomfortable feelings.

    This is why many addicts find themselves jumping to different compulsive behaviors when they've stopped their main one. An alcoholic who stops drinking will suddenly pick up smoking. A porn addict who gets all their internet access taken away picks up drinking. Etc. etc. Just gotta get that hit.
     
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  14. DemonSemen

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    Ah. I think I finally see where you're going. And I agree. If someone is not addicted why would they have an issue giving up something like porn. Or lcohol or drugs for that matter. They shouldn't. If they do, as you say, they're probably an addict or may have some issue.

    Porn is believed to be one of the oldest mediums around. Cave paintings, Egyptian urns, Greek artifacts--all have been found with images of people engaged in fornication. I think what's changed is technology has enabled us with the perfect addition: it's virtually free, available 24/7, and taps into pathways already wired by evolution. Shit is bad. Quitting smoking and sugar is easy compared to quitting porn.
     
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  15. MindfulAchilles

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    Well. I rather not be controversial but I'll say it:
    12-step groups enslave people to the notion that they're sick forever once they touch something.

    I completely disagree with this and discourage anyone seeking true freedom from embracing such twisted ideology. Not addicts, not forever, yes to freedom.
     
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  16. DemonSemen

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    That's certainly one way to view it. I think "enslaving" might be a stretch but I certainly see your viewpoint. 12-step works from the perspective that an addiction is never "cured"because addicts can easily fall into the habit again. However, the idea that they promote a stigma is inaccurate. Addicts are not broken or "sick forever"--they just have a higher probability to relapse than a non-addict.

    I respect your viewpoint--we all want to come out "clean" at the end, but thinking that one is "cured" from an addiction is dangerous because it can lead to the path of "Hey I'm cured so now I can watch a little porn." Which would be bad.
     

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