Hypersexualized Culture

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by l'm The Chosen One, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. cresyhorse

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    my mistake that I commented here, i'm sorry, I wondered here by mistake. but that's very rude calling me an idiot for that.. God bless you, I hope he heals your hatred and frustration.
     
  2. That doesn't work like that with everyone. Some don't care to stick to a relationship. Many seek sex not love making. It's not always "healthy and beautiful" .
     
  3. Thats perfectly fine! I feel the same.
    I don't know, why most people can't accept that sex doesn't have to be the central point in everyones life.
     
  4. Raven King

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    We will always be sensitive to sexual stimulus that's normal. This world is overly sexualized, yes, but we can't run away from it. What we DO control is how we respond to the stimuli. We have to surf the urges instead of fighting them. Fighting the urges only makes them stronger.
     
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  5. StarRider

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    If pornography is your only sexual stimulus and you try to "quit porn", you will get hyper-sensitive to sexual stimulus as a result. And exactly that makes feel like being in "hyper-sexualized culture".
     
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  6. I don't think we are that bad. Most people I meet are kind to each other. And killing the planet is mostly done by rich and powerful companies (https://indigenouspeoples-sdg.org/i...onsible-for-71-of-global-emissions-study-says). I don't think your average person is killing the planet. I also don't think there is much wrong eating meat although I'll admit those factory farms are probably immoral.

    We can't help but like naked women. But many guys I think are genuinely kind to women. I think that it is our culture that normalized semi-nakedness and premarital relations. So women get hypersexualized and objectified. But in general, when I see men and women interact there is some level of respect. It isn't just gross men harassing women (although that sadly does happen too often).

    But we do some good as well. Most people like to feed guests that come in our homes. Most people find joy in smiling at one another. Most people see the atrocities around the world, whether it is the destruction of our planet or the working conditions in some factories in poorer countries and get disturbed. Most of us just don't have the power to stop it.

    I guess my point is don't think we are so terrible. Sure we aren't perfect. But I think you have a negative view of people. Don't count us out. After all, you are one of us!
     
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  7. Angus McGyver

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    I know, today's day and age is literally a minefield for all men below the age of 50-60 (or whenever your potency and T-levels really starts to sway) and I think it's been done on purpose because once men are slaves and prisoners under lust and all of its related desires, he won't be able to reach his fullest potential.
    The sexual energy that can be transmuted into productive activities is of such quantity and importance that most political leaders and globalists know this. They know that men who are possessed by lust and desire are slaves and good workers that will obey them and don't question anything as their ability to think independently is very limited.
     
  8. Lord Pickles

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    I totally agree with what you said. Actually when I posted that post, I was very upset and sad, so I just wanted to blame someone :(. I'm sorry, I am a big fool. We arent really that bad. And we will be better. And yes, the normal everyday guy shouldn't be blamed for everything, its the greedy companies' fault. I have deleted that post. And again, I'm sorry :D .
     
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  9. No need to be sorry, we are all down sometimes. I am glad you are better now!
     
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  10. l'm The Chosen One

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    Don't be pessimistic, my friend.Before everything, we strive to be better people.The reason I want to get rid of this addiction is not because I have a problem with ED.I have no problem with ED.Being a better and strong person is my greatest motivation.We are not fighting this war only for ourselves, we are fighting within the people around us.
     
  11. l'm The Chosen One

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    Is there anything you can suggest about this, my brother ? You have a streak of almost 3 years. Do you feel a change in perception ? How do you feel when you see any female figure in movie,in reality or on image ? Wherever I see these kinds of things, my brain is quickly connecting to PMO.It is not to triggered but an uncomfortable feeling for me .I might be a little triggered,even though I've seen something non-sexual.This is so weird...

    That's why the elites are trying to control the young generation by using PMO.Some women also try to control men by using this weakness.
     
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  12. StarRider

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    The slaves are even dime a dozen on this forum called "NoFap" and get very upset about someone telling others to quit fapping and at the same time start defending coffee and alcohol. LOL. "It's not cool" to tell them the consequences of their actions, because reading that on a forum (and not their complete lack of self-control) makes them fail to quit addiction. Wankers can't even stop themselves telling others what they should and should not post on a forum.

    You know that you're recovering, once masturbating failures on a self-help forum want you to drag you down with them. For me getting this amount of flak means the mindset changed substantially and a changed mindset is the only thing that makes a successful recovery from addiction, not some made-up "90 days reboot" shenanigans.
     
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  13. From now on, you shouldn't waste your time on internet forums. Its bad for your health. Sitting in a world where most well paying jobs require you to sit is quite bad at itself. (Too lazy lifestyle can lead you to lose muscle and bone density especially at older ages)
    Too much screentime doesn't help you either. It dries your eyes since you are constantly watching something that is actively glowing.
    Other than that, it is pretty damaging to circulation of blood. Ultra long times sitting before a computer can lead to death. For example, diablo III killed multiple people at internet cafes when it lauched. It was so addicting people just couldn't stop playing it.
    Forums can do the same to you. The dopamine rush of recieving a like or an answer can hook you to waste more time at those forums and risk your health.
    It's a waste of time at best, but it can lead to an addiction, or even a health risk factor. You cannot tell me an active hobby, that is worse than watching forums. Even passive hobbies (like reading a book or a magazine) are less damaging.
    Please note this! I'm writing this in order to save your health!


    See? You don't like being tolld what to do as an adult from someone who does the same. (It would be somewhat irritating if someone who never used it constantly nagged you about it, but this is absolutelly hypocritical.)
    Even though you know I'm right, this doesn't mean I should try to convince you to change a habbit that you don't want to change.
    You are (hopefully) a responsible adult person, who can decide for himself when he smokes, drinks, consumes coffe, uses screens at free time etc... (the reason tobacco and alcohol requires 18+ or 21+ years of age to consume is because we think a person starts to behave responsibly around that age) Even though they documented to be addicting, and definitelly not healthy. Guess what, you can't keep your life 100% healthy and useful, you need free time, and in your free time you are free to chose whatever you like doing. And that involves damaging hobbies like this.

    Guess what, for most people coffe doesn't causes any diseases . Same as alcohol. Or screentime. Its always the misuse that is bad about those. (And those people reach out to communities where they need help. Thats their decision as well, you cannot force them. And they choose the rules. Someone wants to limit their dosage someone wants to eliminate the habbit)

    Same as masturbation. Girls do it, yet on the forum they are quite a rarity to be seen. Also nofap is a tiny forum with a couple hundred tousand members in a world where billions live. For many people masturbation doesn't causes any problems. Same as sex before marriage.(which you try to avoid aswell, and nowdays its quite rare and in most cases unaccepted among people)
    Its a self help forum, about any misuse of sexuality. You are perfectly fine to do whatever you feel like doing to make your life better.
    Please note, that others are making decisions about their sexual life aswell and other (potentially) damaging habits.
    Your ways are not universally better than anyone elses. Everyone themselves can only decide whats best for you. If its eliminating masturbation thats completelly fine. Noone cares that you don't want to masturbate (and noone will force you to do it).


    Please accept others life choices even though if you did the same as them, you would be in a bad condition. Not everyone are fighting with the same demons.
     
  14. Angus McGyver

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    I know there are plenty of delusional people on the Forum who starts in the wrong end, want quick-fixes and think that a 90-100 abstinence from PMO will reboot them completely (even after doing PMO for years on end) but isn't it better to constructively telling them that they are starting in the wrong end rather than bashing on them for not seeing the holistic and long-term perspective?
    After having been PMO-free for almost 2 1/2 years right now, I have learned that the only way to build up a long-successful streak (and in the long run a satisfying and fulfilling life) and keep it going is to continuously expand the limits of your comfort-zone, self-discipline and control. In other words, to continuously work on self-improvement and yourself, especially your mental and spiritual abilities.
     
  15. Angus McGyver

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    These days, I don't get too triggered but feel more numb the triggers than I did before. It is easier to get those images and impressions out of my mind today than before. Still, I have a hard time with those sex-scenes in movies as I almost immediately feel like I want to be the dude in that scene. At those points, I just have to take a few deep breaths and try to let the memory of it fade away.
    Yes, I definitely have a change in perception after almost 2 1/2 years of abstinence. A perception that is in closer contact with my senses and soul than ever before. A sense in which I feel an almost total un-neediness for not only women but also junk-food, coffee, sugars and all those other drugs/addictions that used to bring me so much pain and misery in the past.
    Getting rid off all your bad vices/habits is a great way to start if you want to come closer to freedom from PMO. I suggest cutting down coffee (preferably quit it altogether), sugars and wheat/grains as those are highly addictive and trigger so many dopamine-receptors in your brain, just to cause misery as the short high starts to decline.
    So, the only things I can suggest that will give you true satisfaction, purpose and meaning in the long run (plus make you less triggered and tempted by all PMO-triggers out there) :

    -Is to work on improving yourself in as many areas of life as possible. But, you can't do it all at once (it will be overwhelming) but rather have to start small with one habit at a time and you will notice that with every vice you manage to get control over will increase your life-satisfaction, guaranteed. Just look outside and see how possessed and enslaved people are by dozens of bad vices (many of them in retirement age as well), not having a clue about how negatively it affects their lives and their health in the long run.
    -Work on developing and expanding your inner-world and a powers as well. You can do this by studying personal development and philosophy which will give you a good picture about how the mind and psyche works. By developing your inner powers and capabilities (from the inside out), you will get into closer contact with yourself, know yourself better and people who know themselves well do really stick out in this world and will get rewarded accordingly (in many ways).
    This is a keystone in actually living for real and not only existing which is the sad reality for 95% of people today. They never get rid of the toxic people, habits and mindsets from their lives and minds and don't even bother to read some books and work on themselves. I dare saying the illiteracy amongst the technically literate is one of the main reasons to their misery. They live through their phones/electronics and never read a book where one single idea or two could change their lives and the way they live.

    When I (hopefully) manage to start up my coaching-business later this year, I will offer coaching lessons for a cheap penny. At least in the beginning when the pressure/demand is going to be lower and I haven't become that valuable in the market-place yet.
     
  16. StarRider

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    1. One constructively tells someone that masturbation might be a problem, especially when they just found out that their "90 days reboot" didn't work at all.

    2. Someone else usually with a new account, who needs to justify his masturbation addiction comes in and tells to stop talking about masturbation, because it triggers their cognitive dissonance. They usually start talking about how masturbating 10 to 60 times a month is "moderate" and "healthy".

    3. Someone fourth comes in with the same speech, praising masturbation.

    This behavior is normal in addicts, but it turns this forum into a addiction denial group, which is the opposite of recovery.
     
  17. Angus McGyver

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    Okay, now I get what you tried to convey at first. Yes, some might suffer from addiction-denial and many times don't realize how closely connected their multiple vices are to (P)MO and all the triggers that make them relapse and fall back into the trap.
    It is essentially impossible to conquer PMO unless you have a decent self-discipline and many good habits in place first. That's at least my theory as to how I got successful after quite few serious attempts on quitting MO. I was already exercising six days/week, two of those days quite hard as well (running 130-140 km/week, plus core-strength twice/week), had a decent diet in place, and could push myself to the limit during those workouts.
     
  18. StarRider

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    Vices don't matter if someone isn't even ready to stop masturbating. These people are not recovering at all. I just quickly checked a few success stories and found no-one who just quit porn. However many don't specify what they mean by "doing NoFap".

    My recent progress came from focusing on quitting the actual culprit and not everything else at the same time, because that's hard enough on its own.

    Sure - you are still young and need to spend excess energy this way - my exercise is walking outside.
     
  19. You think you deserve sex? Isn't that one of the primary characteristics of an incel?
     

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