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I fear that the only reason I can refuse porn is because of blockers?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Basically I don't use a smart phone because I couldn't get a blocking system on a smart phone that I couldn't bypass. So I just use a rubbish old phone for phoning people and texting.

    I have a really good blocking system on my laptop that blocks so much stuff it is unbelievable. Basically the most thing's I can relapse to on the internet is safe search google images or youtube restricted videos. I rarely ever relapse to these things, and if I ever do relapse to these things I am usually done within minutes. Basically it's not on the same scale as relapsing when everything is unblocked.

    My friend is really clever with computers, and he is actually the administrator of my laptop, and I just use a standard account on my laptop, and my friend also holds the login details and passwords to all the blockers I use. My friend lives a mile away from where I live, and if I ever need something downloaded, deleted or fixed on my laptop I need to take it to my friends house to get it fixed.

    Now if I really want everything unblocked I can take my laptop to my friends and get him to unblock it. But this is something I rarely ever do. The only time I ever do this is when I have a very bad hangover from alcohol. Because for some reason a hangover seems to make me extremely horny. The worse the hangover the more horny I seem to be.

    So last night for instance I drank a half bottle of Jack Daniels and today I am a little hungover, but not too bad. But I was a little horny earlier and I was thinking I quite fancy going on porn. But I feel like I can definitely refuse it. No way am I going to walk a mile to my friends to get him to unblock and then walk a mile back just to have porn unblocked for a little while. I feel like this is enough of a deterrent for me to completely refuse porn today.

    But my worry is if I didn't have this blocking system in place I know it's highly likely I would of been on porn today. See the thing is it's quite bad on my part, because I do feel like my will power is much better compared to what it used to be, and I don't even like porn as much as I used to. Like at one time I would of been running to my friends today to get him to unblock it, where as these days I just refuse it much easier. But like I said if I could access it instantly at any time I want I do worry I would relapse on it much easier.

    Like I could go on porn not even feeling that horny, but then the more I peek at it before I know it I am feeling horny for it.

    My worry is I don't think I can have a blocking system in place forever. For the most part I have been doing well, but the worry is I mainly put that down to the blocking system I have in place. I mean I can still walk a mile and get my friend to unblock it and then walk a mile back. But I just feel like it's a hassle and not even worth it. I feel like walking a mile and going through the hassle of my friend blocking it and then having to walk a mile isn't worth it anyway, it is enough of a deterrent for me to say no. Where as having access to it right in front of me instantly and refusing it seems completely different. It seems much more difficult not to go searching and peeking at it if it is instantly accessible right in front of me like that.

    I just worry because I feel like the main reason I do well is because I simply can't access it, and I have enough of a deterrent not to go through the hassle of being able to get on it. Where as if it is instantly accessible right in front of me this is much more difficult to refuse.

    Like I said I just worry because I feel like I am going need to refuse it on my own one day.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2019
  2. Overforme

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    I wouldn't worry about the future. Focus on the NOW. This way you can rewire your brain and then down the road you will have more will power. Sounds like you have a good system in place right now that works for you, so just keep things as is, and worry about today in order to better for tomorrow and so on and so forth.
     
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  3. CTRL + DEL

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    Impressive insight.
    Most users here lack it.

    The fact that this degree of self-understanding exists within you is itself proof that you can move onward with a resolve. Don't worry about it. The answer will come to you. Have faith in yourself.
     
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  4. skaterdrew

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    Thanks man. See it's different these days. At one time I would of felt like the urge to go on porn would of been screaming at me. Where as now it's basically just talking quietly saying I quite fancy some porn. I feel like I can easily refuse it.

    But yeah like I said if it was easily accessible right in front of me I do feel like it would be much more difficult.
     
  5. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Thanks man.
     
  6. ManAtWork

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    If it's a functioning system for you right now and it prevents you from relapsing, everything is fine. If you stay abstain from porn for the next weeks, you will not need this system anymore. So don't worry too much about it.
    However, like you said it's easier to relapse when porn is right in front of you. So think about what you're strageties could be, when you don't have this bolcking system anymore. In my humble opinion, it's to stay away from porn as far as possible (I'm not using any blocker), means when the urges are rising, I switch off my computer, put my phone away, go outside, drink some water and so on.
     
  7. skaterdrew

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    I agree with you in some ways and not in other ways. Like I have felt like I have had no urges what so ever to search or look at porn at all a lot of the time. But I don't think the urge to search and view porn goes away completely forever. I think you get to a point you feel like it doesn't or hardly exists, and your just not getting any urges what so ever to search or view it. But even relapsing on it once can cause all those powerful urges to come flooding back.
     
  8. evenprincehaveproblems

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    hi. interesting post.
    2 things:
    1. what is the name of your very-good laptop blocking system ? i guess that would be a nice thing to share among the comunnity.

    2. if i would go into your home and force you to take some hard-drug, than break into your home the next day and force it again, the third day you managed to scare me away but at the fourth day i returned with a tank and forced you to take the drug into your veins again, and again and again and again- would you say it's fair to blame you or say that you simply "need to use your willpower and say no" ? of course not.
    would you say that relying on fortifying your house and arm yourself to the teeth is not a good idea or a wrong idea ?
    now please replace the words "hard-drug" with the word "porn".
     
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  9. ManAtWork

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    So what's your problem? Is it, that you feel like you don't relapse only because you're using a blocking system? So what? Important is, that you don't relapse and over time the urges will fade away. Of course not completly, but that's the second point I wanted to make. You have to find a strategie to cope with these urges. Even with using a blocking system you can try other strageties, for example doing push ups, or whatever.
    And what's exactly the problem with using this blocking system, say, for the rest of the life? I don't see there a problem using this as the last line of defence.
     
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  10. skaterdrew

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    I need a blocking system I can't bypass. That's how my friend is really helping making it near impossible for me to bypass it. Even if I could get past it it's so much hassle I wouldn't even try.

    Well today I have been hungover lying about in bed all day, and I don't even feel horny. But I just think chatting to women on social media or on some sort of cam site seems really appealing. Like I said I don't feel horny but still want to do this. But I haven't done it because of the blockers.

    But the worry is if I didn't have the blockers I honestly think I would of binged today. So this frightens me because it makes me think I will always relapse if I don't have blockers.

    I mean if I want to go on it and I'm not even horny then what hope do I have?
     
  11. Your insight is spot on bro. Reminds me of @ZenAF .

    filters are NOT your conscience. I personally like a blend of empowerment and blockers.

    Why? Because porn aversion is a muscle in your brain. You must strengthen it if you want to see progress.

    Find a way to make choices that support your journey and do them as often as you can to balance your perception
     
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  12. I have a similar setup. I made the admin password super long and confusing, and wrote it down on a piece of paper, then crumpled it up and put it in my sock drawer. I use the standard account for everything. I share the same worry as you, about my periods of abstention coming from a place of laziness rather than a place of willpower. But once I abstain for long enough, then the pathways in my brain will be reset, and I'll have more willpower and be able to resist on my own. I'm using the blocks to force me to deal with my emotional problems head-on, but once I do that for a few months, then I won't need the blocks.

    You don't get mad at a little kid using training wheels so that he can develop the muscle memory to ride a bike. If you put that kid on a regular bike, he might hurt himself, or just get frustrated and quit. And then he'll miss out on all the fun of riding a bicycle. Hell, riding with training wheels is fun and good exercise. So stop beating yourself up for needing training wheels. At least you're riding down that path.
     
  13. Veritech

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    A porn blocker is a good start, but is not the cure to your addiction.

    It is like a harness when working outside a highrise building. If you lose balance and fall, it will catch you. However, if you keep falling (although you are not dead from falling down 30 stories) you should still not be working outside a highrise building.

    Good for you for realizing that the pornblocker is not enough. This is a very good and informative step toward your eventual recovery.
     
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  14. Ronaldo Machuca

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    Um you can use a smartphone lol. on IOS you can whitelist your phone. meaning either have no access to any website or only kid approved sites. Go to screen time> restrictions> Restricted access> and whitelist. Even if you download another browser. the sites are blocked. every site besides approved ones. and for the passcode. type something quick and random. dont think too hard what password just type fast and dont think about the password. or have someone put a password for you. and you wont have access to porn sites. although the apps Tumblr and twitter might still break you as they are apps. Dunno if you can block apps but you might want to use another account and make the password difficult and choose the option. Require password when downloading apps. so you can't download them.
     
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  15. skaterdrew

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    Ah see that wouldn't work for me. If I can access social media, dating sites and things like that then it wouldn't work for me. I actually think social media websites turn me on the most these days. I could probably also access unrestricted images and unrestricted youtube videos on a smart phone.

    I don't think I could block a smart phone to anywhere near the same level as my laptop.

    I knew I could block what is categorised as porn content on a smart phone with it being difficult to bypass. But lets face it, it's not just what is categorised as porn content that is the problem. Like I said social media sites actually seem to turn me on more than porn websites these days. I seem to be more turned on at interacting with real women online more than just watching porn videos.
     
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  16. Ronaldo Machuca

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    Same. Just don't install them? Instagram and Twitter were big triggers for me. Just don't install them. Yes you can. Also on a computer running windows it's easier to access adult sites. hundreds of different browsers. you can't block them all. on a smartphone you can legit have it work as only a phone.
     
  17. ZenAF

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    I wrote this in another thread:
    ...That's also why I'm against porn blockers. They keep your unconscious curious. What's behind that Berlin Wall? I have some memories.. Is it still like that? Guess, I wont know... for now. Exactly for now, until you finally lulled yourself into the belief that you've actually beaten your addiction by staying two years porn free through the help of blockers. So you deinstall them and then, that night, the first seed of self-doubt rises. Just a whisper in your mind Well technically I could just open up a porn site right now.. Haha, very funny, I'm over that. And maybe that's already it and you fall asleep. But the seed stays and grows. Come on man, I just want to see what it looks like now, I won't jerk off I promise, just a quick look for fun.
    How long before you give into it? That depends, but I can guarantee you that it will ruffle your feathers good. As you begin to understand that not watching porn with blockers installed is something completely different than not watching it when you have a choice.
     
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  18. skaterdrew

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    I agree with that. It's as if I sometimes feel like I just want to see it because I hardly ever see it.

    I also feel like sometimes when I get the chance to see it I search it as quickly as possible to see it. Not because I am horny, but simply because it almost feels like some sort of opportunity to get a quick peak.

    But that being said I do still feel like I do much better with this blocking system in place. But like I said what worries me is if I didn't have this blocking system I feel like I would relapse much more often. But then again maybe I do need to learn to refuse it when I can access it easily.

    At this point I would be scared to stop blocking it.
     

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