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I have 3 questions about this demonic bullshit that is porn.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by HelperX, Jul 6, 2021.

  1. HelperX

    HelperX Fapstronaut

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    1. Why does porn exist and how it came to existance?

    2. Why does it still exist and no government does anything?

    3. Why it creates addiction and can have devastating side effects?


    I would really like an answer for each of the questions. It literally looks like this is demon's work.
     
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  2. It’s addictive. That’s why it exists. The porn industry wouldn’t be a $100 billion dollar industry, if it wasn’t addictive. Porn is crack cocaine to the brain, but whereas crack cocaine you can die, with porn you can’t die.

    There’s nothing positive about porn unless your a pervert or you like to experiment with your sexuality.
     
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  3. becomingreat

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    Humanism in short. When instead of respecting God/lord rules, government's politics get based on human needs then disaster happens.

    See humans are not animals, we don't have strong instincts to avoid what harm us. We like to have our sexual needs met, we like to dress how we like, we like to behave however we like, etc. As a human we follow what give us pleasure.

    Very few men instinctively understand that pmo harms. A vast majority need guidance. Not only in this context but also other areas of life. This is why we need some kind of religion/ spirituality to live a healthy life and not fall into traps.

    Unfortunately most governments these days place human need on top and neglect laws of nature/ spirituality. You want to satisfy your sexual needs? here you go(porn and prostitution). You want to eat a delicious food? here you go, fastfood...

    I'm not that much religious but the more I think, the more I understand why these religious restraints were meant to be for hundreds of years. They were with humanity for a reason, but suddenly the modern human thought he can outsmart nature and use shortcuts for his needs. That's when most problems occured.
     
  4. Nikounik

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    Why would government do anything, cigarettes, alcohol it is all what kills us but they are still legal. I just hope one day when you enter on porn site that it will be same thing that is on pack of cigarettes for example: WARING it cause cancer but just for porn it cause erectile dysfunction depression...
     
  5. greenishmoon

    greenishmoon Fapstronaut

    With a photo of your favorite depressed pornstar like with cigarretes. Or a sad guy with his penis flaccid.
     
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  6. Melkhiresa

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    don't need no religion brah, just go to china they will tell you what you can and cannot do(or say).
     
  7. 1ANDDONE

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    Nope. No demons here. Just humanity. Let me start by saying the human brain evolved in a certain environment, and for that environment, it was relatively balanced.

    We have altered our environment so it looks very little like the environment our brains evolved in, and our brains have not caught up.

    1. Humanity invented porn a loooong time ago. Porn is a recorded visual representation of sexual something. You can find it on cave walls. Boobs and penises were popular depictions by early humans, and actually when I am bored....you better get a sense of humor right now. We are all just human and flawed, even the ones who don't want to show it. It's OK. Porn came into existence when we, humanity, figured out we got a neurological reward event, a dopamine high, from "thinking" about sex--that was true before the porn we have now.

    You would find it but it wasn't just around. Sorry, TOTALLY inappropriate Van Halen reference. Forgive me, I digress.

    We figured out that we could use porn to get that high even more, because those depictions made us think about sex even more. Now, let's jump forward to a few hundred thousand years later to what we have now, which is not merely "porn" but High Speed Internet Porn. That is like cocaine on heroin. Probably a bad analogy. You see, it is not just having a sexual thought that gets a user a dopamine high, it is thinking a new, novel, never before thought sexual thought that gets a user that high. Porn that came before HSIP was relatively finite; HSIP is practically infinite, in the sense you could search for a new image, a new high, every day, all day, for the rest of your life and never have to see the same image twice. Getting the high from a new image/thought is one of the ways the addiction is enforced. It is not just seeing the image that results in a high, but searching for a new image that bolsters the high. Turns out that as thinking of sex is a successful survival trait, because it leads to the real deal, searching for other sexual thoughts had, at least in our evolutionary history, some survival value.

    2. It exists because we live in a free country and a free world, and the government cannot do much about it. Education is key, not control. Porn is addictive to some, but not to all, and probably not to most. Government tries to control a lot of things we like that are not good for us: It fails all the time. Let me rephrase this to answer a deeper question which is implied but not expressly answered: It is not up to government to control the individual, it is up to the individual to control themselves, at least with porn consumption. It is easy to wish a third party would come in and fix us, but, ultimately, we fix ourselves, or we do not get fixed. There was never an addict in history that got fixed by force, they only fix themselves via choice.

    3. Addictions are very simple to understand. Very simple. We use X, Y, or Z to alter the brain for a second. Drugs do it, alcohol, sex, gambling for some, porn for some; in all those addiction we use whatever it us to spike a naturally occurring, necessary, and healthy brain reward event, a dopamine high. We like that feeling. Way before we invented HSIP we got that feeling--but not as much and not as intensely. The purpose of the neurological reward is to promote survival of the individual and promulgation of the species. It is a reward that encourages at its most basic level reproduction or eating. It's not just us, but all successful species; all successful species have a powerful innate driver to reproduce. How do we reproduce? You got it, sex. Why do we like sex, why is sex interesting to us? Why is thinking about sex interesting to us? What makes us think about sex just about more than anything else, even sex? Porn. Artificial sexual stimulation. That leads to a neurological reward event in the brain we interpret as pleasure, the dopamine high. It is important for you to understand that humans do not just "catch" an addiction, it is a trained result of repeated use of X, Y, or Z to get high, in the case of porn, a dopamine high, but dopamine is a key component in all addiction. Humanity invents all its addictions, and we are not done, by a long way. We like to invent triggers that produce that neurological reward, because we like the reward. Give yourself the reward often enough and the brain comes to expect it and demand in and voila!, addiction. It is not complicated. Most get addicted in ignorance, but the mechanics of it are simple. "Addicted" is the state where your brain does not want to give it up and punishes you for trying. The key symptom of addiction is not "using"--that is the common misunderstanding--it is withdrawals when you quit using. There are guys who use porn all day, and they can put it up on a shelf and walk away, no problem. Then there are the guys who use porn all day, and plan on it every day, and get nauseous, shaky, sweaty, and brain fog when they try to put it down.

    I don't know about what devastating side effects you are talking about. I had some, but not devastating. And, once I took the cure, I did not have those anymore, meaning they can be fixed, if you quit using.

    For the record @HelperX, I think your three questions were about as direct and pertinent as any I have seen for a long time.

    Much Love--shout out to Gabe Deem!

    WILL.
     
  8. greenishmoon

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