No I'm not surprised, I actually *mentioned* that there's some question about that in my first reply if you look back. Just because it's not written in the 2017 "psychology books" (do you mean the DSM? Which books???) it doesn't mean there's no addictive quality, do they recognize internet porn as an addiction? If you know porn is addictive then do the simple math that means you can't go by the authorities recognition when they don't consider porn as a possible addiction but you do. What are the points about the debate? I mean it's one thing to cite there is one it's another thing to even have anything specific about it. It's easy to look for information to support your position instead of actually look at it for what it is from all sides. But I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, the fact is some things can be addictive to some people and not others. Some people have no problem drinking, that doesn't mean alcohol is not addictive obviously. With actual sex there's also the question of relationship dynamics, you can say that's not addiction but things like codependency come into it, for which there are recovery groups. Looking for girls on the street as if they were drugs is not creative, it's something people actually do - I'm sure you've heard of prostitution. I'm not saying you would do that, but people do so that's something that happens. If people do that on a regular basis, which apparently in our world does HAPPEN then wouldn't you call that an addiction? And if you want to draw an arbitrary line because people are paying for it what's the difference if you are just as hooked? You'll have to make some actual distinctions instead of "I don't think it would lead to that" - again it may not lead to that for you, but there are people who ALREADY do that so that doesn't follow at all. Again you can think whatever you like, but if there is an open discussion about it you'll have to expect people to have different views and you'll have to come up with real reasons that follow, not "that's pretty creative" and just "I don't think so." Anyone can say they don't think so and something that is natural isn't excluded from addiction. Look at food, people can eat themselves to death in different ways but food is natural. Again, may not happen for you but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen or it cannot be addictive.