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I masturbated last night, and I loved it.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by OneWithTheUnderdogs, May 25, 2017.

  1. w95chris

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    Well that's one thing we agree on hahaha that if you have been masturbating for a long time it becomes a part of your routine and you feel like you have to do it.And when i pulled the plug that is what my body said and it went into an "emergency mode".I have no saying in why do people cheat but i agree that it start with sex because we (i mean us men) have urges that sometimes we cannot control.

    If you had a healthy sexual relationship and an active sex life then keep porn away because it does not help.Anxiety might be related to PM but you could have something else that is bothering you.Perhaps overthinking is one of them (because that is what most people -myself included- do)

    Now that you understand i am glad we agree on this.Sometimes if you are "abusing" yourself with masturbating then your brain and body need to heal and this takes time.Then you learn to control it and that's it no harm done from this point and on.Well yes it is like any other addiction and just like alcohol you mentioned.If you keep it under control and in small doses then no harm is done.And of course quit porn because it is harmful for you and will completely change the way you think

    In the end we agreed on some things so it turns out that stubborn young men can agree on certain things which is very good.I will keep up my journey without changing anything for a little longer and then after i believe that i have healed i will try different things and see how it goes.Anyways keep updating whenever you can because i am curious to find out what happens with your journey (in a good way not in a "I told you so" way)

    It was nice having a conversation with you even though we argued on some things,but we all have different opinions
     
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  2. Tommy_0113

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    Well that guy clearly has no issues at all, so why would he need to concern himself with nofap in the first place?
    Many people start this journey to combat issues in their life. Mine being I can't get an erection to masturbate yet alone sex.
     
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  3. IceRoots

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    Hey, I can completly follow your way of thinking. I thought this through all the time and I still am, but I came to the conclusion, that this is an addict-behavior.
    Sure the O is better but why? Because you were in a reboot and abstinent for some time. I cant imagine what would happen if I PMOed today, but I will keep fighting and pushing until a couple of months are reached and the rebooting process is over. Then I will start thinking about my future in terms of sexuality and so should you.
     
  4. Veeav

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    The way you're talking about other girls and accepting porn (naked women and stuff) shows how you respect your girlfriend...
     
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  5. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    Hey man

    Thanks for sharing!

    I totally agree with everything you've said in this post. Sometimes it just is an animalistic urge that you cannot resist, and there's nothing wrong with that. Seeing those all those beautiful women got me riled up like a 13 year old! It felt amazing, and when I got home to work out all of that pent up sexual frustration, that felt amazing too ;)

    What was weird was that earlier in the day I wasn't horny at all, then I saw a girl who just triggered something and it was like someone flicked a switch. I was in total flirt mode for the rest of the day. Women were leaning in close when they were talking to me, touching me, and flirting back. With one of the girls at the conference, t was almost like we were having sex with our eyes and body language (as corny as that sounds!)

    Again, totally agree. Sometimes you think you "need" it, but really it's just a "want", out of frustration or boredom. If you hold off until you're hard as a rock out of nowhere and full of teenage sexual excitement like I was last night, the proceeding "fun" will be 10X better than if you just did it out of habit.

    I do think porn is harmful, if abused. Everyone on NoFap has abused porn and felt it's effects, or why else would be we here? This isn't to say that we shouldn't ever watch porn or masturbate again, we just need to start choosing our moments. A spur of the moment self pleasuring session that comes about because you're super horny out of nowhere is one of the most satisfying experiences you can have...Yeah you might feel a little tired afterwards, but you would after sex too!

    Glad to hear we're on the same page.

    Feel free to drop me a PM if you want to discuss further :)

    I could do with someone to chat to who's on my level.

    x
     
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  6. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    I don't quite know what you mean by that statement,

    Please elaborate...

    Unless you were just making an unhelpful and unnecessary comment, in which case don't.
     
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  7. Veeav

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    So why are you here? It's Nofap. You can't even abstain from porn. Porn is bad - it's science, there is nothing to argue with, it's not just theory, it's fact.
     
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  8. 3nigma

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    I too want to know why you're here - a website dedicated to abstaining from pornography and masturbation - to gloat about how awesome your masturbation session was. It's like you're either you a) are looking for an argument or b) you want us to talk you out of it. There are lots of other men's forums on which you can express this sentiment.

    All that stuff about the girls sensing your virility and having sex with your eyes... That stuff is all in your head. You got horny and you went home and jerked off. Wow. Mazel tov...

    Maybe NoFap isn't for you. Maybe you can masturbate and watch porn responsibly every once in a while. Most of us can't.

    And btw, how would your girlfriend feel about you getting so horny over these women on a business trip that you had to come home and pleasure yourself just to fall asleep? That's normal?
     
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  9. Happy Man

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    @OneWithTheUnderdogs

    I disagree with all of this. Your playing with fire.

    No porn is for life. Period!!
     
  10. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    Every scientific fact begins with a theory. Also, no, it's not a fact.

    I came here in order to kick a habit I've developed around porn. My goal was never to abstain from it forever. As I mentioned in an earlier post which I'm sure you haven't read, each of us came here with a different set of goals in mind. Yours may have been to cut PMO out of your life forever, mine was not.

    I hate people like you. You invade threads and spout scaremongering statements like "all porn is bad" "all masturbation is bad" when it is not. People take something like porn and MAKE it bad due to their poor choices and lack of self control. Mine for instance, was binging. I started this thread because I wanted to share MY personal experiences and hear back from other fellow users, who all apart from you, have given me some insightful details into their own habits and also provided constructive advice.

    I can tell just from your profile picture what kind of guy you are, and it's cute that you inferred that I don't respect my girlfriend because I "talk about naked women", and can appreciate a woman's sexuality.

    Now please remove yourself from this thread, and a word of advice, stop being such a fucking bitch.
     
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  11. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    Did you read the first thing I wrote before I started writing this post?

    I was specifically NOT looking for an argument, I just wanted to know if anyone here had experienced anything similar to me, or would like to share (constructive) thoughts on the matter.

    You're missing the entire point my friend.

    My point was, that most of us on this forum are here because we've developed a compulsion; a habit of watching porn on a regular basis with no control over whether we do or don't. On the day in question, it was the first time that I can remember that I masturbated out of what I FELT was a need, and not a want. As I keep stating, everyone comes here with a different set of goals, and currently I am meeting mine. Just because they don't correlate with yours doesn't mean that they're wrong.

    I imagine you knew you were going to get pissed off by my post just by the title, and yet you read on, so I'm not going to apologise for anything.

    My girlfriend and I are human beings, not robots. We are aware that just because you are in a relationship, you don't suddenly lose all sexual attraction to other people. It's a healthy way of controlling jealousy, and it works for us. That's the end of it.

    This is again my whole point, I'm saying that you can! We all enjoy porn, there's no denying that. It's what got us here in the first place. All I'm suggesting is that instead of pulling the plug completely, we learn to have a healthy relationship with it again.

    Yeah, I got horny and jerked off. I still don't regret it, and I didn't post this thread in order to start an argument. If you want to properly engage in a discussion with me, I'd be happy to, but if you're going to behave like captain white knight above, please leave and vent your annoyances elsewhere. There are plenty of other users here who have adhered to the former.
     
  12. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    But that's just like, your opinion man...
     
  13. Perfect.
    And for me, avoiding P and M for weeks and weeks, feels absolutely great, and I won't let anyone tell me otherwise. :)
     
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  14. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    That's awesome man.

    I totally appreciate, and have experienced the feelings that come with abstaining from PMO for extended amounts of time. I found that it was more the cutting out of masturbation and as a result, ejaculation, rather than porn that really helped me, and made me feel awesome!

    Having been in a relationship for 18 months, it's difficult for me to abstain from ejaculation now, as I think my GF would wonder what was wrong :')
     
  15. 3nigma

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    Hey man, you wanna fap to porn that's cool. It's just not for me. Let us know how your experiment with responsible use goes.
     
  16. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    Literally the perfect response.

    If only everyone on here adopted your mindset.

    I will be updating my progress as I go.

    This is all about research for me, and working out what is best for my body and mind.
     
  17. 97days

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    All of this - this isn't helpful. OP, myself, and others are looking to have a discussion about our experience that doesn't involve shaming and guilting, but observing what we feel.

    Sure, NoFap by definition is when you don't fap. Maybe this isn't the site for us. I think OP would agree that this question is exactly what we're trying to find out for ourselves. If you disagree then let's have a ~discussion~ about it, not a slate session.

    If you want to indoctrinate others based on recently investigated 'facts' somebody told you on the internet - without allowing anyone else to look inside themselves and wonder otherwise - maybe you'd be better suited to conservative religion.
     
  18. OneWithTheUnderdogs

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    Preach it!

    You're exactly right. I posted this thread to gain an insight into what others were experiencing on their journey, and if I could relate to anyone here.

    I believe I have found the right path for me, and am investigating it further so as to pass on my experiences to others who feel they may feel benefit from NoFap goals that don't involve turning yourself into a sexless husk with zero social skills.

    Again, spot on. There are no "facts" here, only experiences, opinions, and trial and error. Granted, this is how all scientific facts come to be, but the NoFap is still very much a social experiment. It's one which has returned some very interesting and compelling results, but please do not try to state anything here as fact.

    Elitism is not welcome here. Shooting people down and telling them they're "wrong" is a sure fire way to set them back even further than you already deem them. Maybe instead of just dismissing other experiences, you should just accept that a person with a completely different mind, body and soul is recovering in a different way.

    Yes, we're all here because of a problem we've found with PMO, but we're not all 30 year old virgins who have spent the last 15 years of our lives spunking into tissues in our parents basement. We've all experienced addiction differently, and so we will recover differently.

    Accept that.
     
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  19. 97days

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    Imagine it's something like responding to desire, and identifying and neutralising gluttony. Exactly how @lostandfound said, where you're not masturbating your way out of reality. I think that's a sentiment I relate to a lot
     
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  20. I'm not attacking you or anything but I just wanted to know what not having sex has to do with not having social skills?
     

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