I just can't figure it out what I do while communicating with people but every suggests that I do it wrong. I always get the negative response from people and I really don't know why. When communicating with males, I'm either the one pushed aside and if I say something it usually gets ignored or belittled. It really shows up if the company of males more masculine like after a basketball. Also it that kind of company if I say something remotely funny, it more often than not gets ridiculed. And if I try to hold my stance and become more serious, it either get ignored or challenged in a way that other side no matter how bad their arguments are, just don't want to accept my view, like they try to defy me on purpose. When communicating with average males I do get the attention and people do listen to me but i see that I'm not most wanted company and usually all of my relationships with men are kept by me. And people do like to have me around because I' reliable but not to hang around with. But the real problem are the women: I just do something very wrong while communicating with them. It really shows on social networks and forums where I just can't get them interested in me. I'm open person and I'm not afraid to say my point of view on the subject and argument it and I think that it maybe shows like I try to hard on stuff generally. I do like to pinpoint on the detail what I consider important for the subject but I just can't believe that that maybe the problem because that would mean that most of other people are superficial? I really don't know... Example: A while ago while chatting on one general forum, one girl recognized my fetish and was willing to chat with me on private and she sent me few of her fetish related pics but didn't want anything else because I was married at the time. Because I was really happy to find an open minded female on the subject, I tried to broaden the subject and asked her few questions which she didn't answer. Now, few months after, I've messaged her politely saying that she left an impression on me and that I'm now free and would like to meet her in person because I've never met a woman in RL that was so relaxed talking on the fetish topics and said it isn't a sexual driven meeting, I just want to meet a person with that mindset. She rejected me saying that she doesn't remember me with good feeling and she'll pass Now I don't get it: if I have pushed the subject in a sexual way, it usually leads to the point where I seam superficial and I don't care for her as a person, and if I do it other way around I become some weirdo who wants to talk about subject whe maybe is not so confident about in RL? Or am I getting something very very wrong here? What should I have done that would maybe result in her being interested in me?