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I wish porn was banned or restricted

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Jul 15, 2021.

  1. Meshuga

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    You are convinced you need to stop, and that's good. It sounds like you're trying to white knuckle it, and that's not as good.
    You can't just quit something, my dude. It's physics; you can't just make a hole, a vacuum, something has to fill it. Even if it's 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, something's got to fill it. You can't remove P from your life either. What's going to fill that time? What's going to replace that method for dopamine? You need dopamine. You absolutely need to have it, you literally go insane without it. P is an easy way to get it, that's why you're addicted to it. You need to find a more productive way to get that dopamine than cheating with the novelty of P, something with better side effects than P.
    I run, and I keep busy doing useful things around the house, then I tell myself, "good job for doing those useful things." It's important to tell myself that, but I'm a headcase, you might not have to make that effort. Other people lift, do some kind of strength training. Physical activity is a great way to get dopamine, it's a trusted method by mental health experts. You have to do something.
    You also have to replace those thoughts. You're going to want to fantasize, to think about P or S. You're going to see things that remind you of it, that will set your brain off on that path. You need some other thoughts pre-loaded to think about instead, to access when that happens. I write fiction, so I have plot problems I can work out. I'm also doing a kind of religious meditation throughout the day. You can do something similar, or if you're full atheist, work on ethics. Or you can work on your plan to improve something in your life, by setting up tangible goals and working out a path to achieving them. Those are some good, positive things to think about, and if you do that (and enact your plans), you'll get more good dopamine.
    Some bad dopamine acquisition methods; sugary food, social media, video game binge. Sugar is an easy way to get some dope, but has obvious health side effects. Teeth and fat, mostly. Not a good habit. Social media seems to be fine tuned designed to keep you just hooked enough to keep clicking, keep browsing, keep swiping, without getting any real satisfaction. Twitter in particular just brings out the worst in people, and all social media can be full of P sub landmines, especially for a P addict. Your past behavior has told the algorithms you love that erotic content, so they will serve you as much T&A as they can to keep you on their apps and generating that sweet, sweet ad revenue. Video games can actually be a good distraction, in moderation. They can relax your brain, help you deescalate from the day. Then again, they can get you angry if you're predisposed to gamer rage, and they can be a time suck. Just be aware of your own weaknesses, and plan accordingly.

    Oh you sweet, summer child. You poor naive soul. P isn't real. What you see is not a bunch of people having a sex life. You see a bunch of people at work. P is designed to look as thrilling and fun and magical as possible, and us men especially, we're suckers for it so we're easy to fool. Those girls aren't really O'ing. They aren't even having fun. They're acting. The things they do are at best awkward and difficult to pull off in real life, and at worst, downright painful. Some of those women aren't even willing. Some of those guys have to inject drugs into their dicks with a needle to stay hard between cuts. P is a lie. It's a fantasy.

    That's not the only reason you feel terrible about yourself, either. Sex is an activity that is biologically engineered to bond you with a partner, so when you go through the motions without anyone actually there, it's a letdown. The rush of dopamine, a hormone designed to reward you for positive behavior, is immediately satisfying but there's no real accomplishment, it's hollow, and there's no serotonin to back it up. P is a bad dopamine source. That's one of the benefits Fapstronauts discover. They come because their dicks stopped working, or they got into some freaky stuff that's changing their baseline sexuality and it scares them, but once they get completely off P and find dopamine from natural sources, they find they are more productive, more happy, more confident, they think clearer. They call it "superpowers," but really it's just the way you're supposed to be. It's not that you learn to jump buildings in a single bound, you just dump the rocks out of your pockets and find you can actually jump.

    I have some good news for you, my dude. This is a temporary problem. You can fix it! Stop the P, and your body will heal itself in no time. You'll still have to disabuse yourself of all the lies P told you, listen to your partner and work with them, but they'll love you and you can be patient with one another and figure it out. You'll be fine.

    You know, that sounds like a good idea but in the end it probably would cause more problems than it'd solve. I base that on the US's experiment with banning alcohol, called "Prohibition," and the experiment on banning certain pharmaceuticals, called "The War on Drugs." You can ban it, you can make it illegal, but that doesn't make it go away. People will always want that garbage, so they'll keep making it and selling it, but it'll be underground and even less regulated than it is now. P is popular with some people. Unpopular with others, but very, very popular with men especially. I think the unintended consequences of such a move would be hard to anticipate, but almost certainly more numerous and disastrous than anyone could foresee.
    More than that, though, it's offloading your responsibility to yourself and giving it to the government. Instead, you have to do this for yourself. And you can! Quitting P is possible. You can do this, HsV, whoever you are. You can get yourself out of this mess, and be a better person for it.
     
  2. I’m not for banning porn. But why are you aganist regulation? Should children and teens watch porn when the legal age to watch porn is 18?
     
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  3. skaterdrew

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    I wouldn't go as far as to say that I wish it was banned, because where does that end? I don't think it would be good if governments had the power to just easily ban whatever they wanted, and if they were able to ban porn then that would be a step in that direction.

    But I more wish porn was restricted by default, and if you chose to unblock it you could. So basically every new device, every new internet service provider, every new mobile provider, porn being restricted on all these things by default, and if you choose to unblock it you can.

    I personally think this is what should happen.
     
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  4. Why are you assuming I am against regulation. All my replies were about how banning it won't work. I never said kids should have easy access to it.
     
  5. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Governments already regulate and even censor lots of things, restructions on porn won't push them on some slippery slope.

    Regulation is an absolute minimum. Ask any member of this forum about when they first encountered porn and most probable answear would be during teen years.

    No ban can realistically eradicate something completely. Murder is a crime, yet people are doing it. Access to porn is currently completely effortless and it makes quitting a lot harder.

    Majority of porn users does not want to quit.

    But it doesn't help either.
     
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  6. Ekhangel

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    I call bullshit on any porn restriction/banning ideas. It will just trigger the forbidden fruit mechanism and draw even more people in, not even to mention "liberal" movements doing their counteroffensive and thus drawing EVEN MORE people into this filfth. Porn needs to be banned from our minds, that's all. Also, don't try to repair the whole world and all people with some legislation, or else you'll end up like the Soviets in 1991 or the Nazis in 1945.

    Heed the U.S. 1920 prohibition lesson. If you don't want teenage crooks dealing pendrives with "illegal" porn around schools, just drop this idea.
     
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  7. skaterdrew

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    I think they should restrict it. It being blocked by default on every new device, new internet service provider, new mobile phone provider. Then to turn this block off needing to be the account holder to turn it off.

    So needing to be the account holder of the internet service provider account to have the log in details so you can turn the block off. I would actually go even further with this though and have other settings that also allow you to block VPNs, third party DNS etc, and you could turn these on or off if you wanted to. Most internet service providers already allow you to block specific categories, so adult content, social media, proxies etc. But as I said I would have the adult content blocked by default. I also think it would be good if you could also add specific devices. So for instance if a parent added their child's computer and applied the adult content block, VPN block, third party DNS block settings to their child's device, but then the parent could have different settings for their own device.

    Then with the mobile network provider the adult content being blocked by default, and to turn it off needing to be the account holder. Most children aren't going to be the account holder of these things. Then what the parent could do is also add their child's phone to the devices of their internet service provider account. Basically making it impossible for their child to access porn on their smartphone, so they wouldn't be able to access it through the internet with their mobile network provider or through their router.

    These are the sort of things I think should be implemented. At the vert least adult content as a whole would be much more restricted, it wouldn't be so much in everyone's face because it would be blocked by default, and parents would also have much easier and better options to restrict their children this way. Even adults would have easier and better options to restrict themselves this way, if they wanted to restrict them self.
     
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  8. As much as I would agree with blocking porn, blocking VPNs is a very bad idea.

    A VPN is the only way to securely transmit private data over the internet, and it is the only way to access some websites from certain countries, e.g. China, Myanmar, Laos, etc. (maybe North Korea?--I hope some are able to do this there). Essential, VPNs are important to both security and freedom.

    If governments used porn as their excuse to ban VPNs, we'll all be in a very Orwellian state. Things are definitely trending that direction, but I, for one, could never lend my voice in support of said trend.
     
  9. skaterdrew

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    I'm not saying blocking VPNs entirely. I am saying having that option in your internet service provider settings, and if you chose to block VPNs you could. Then again if they also had a set up you could add specific devices to the internet service provider account, you could block your child from VPNs etc, but not yourself from VPNs.

    Basically if I had my way all internet service providers would have a vast amount of things you could change and do in the settings of your internet service provider account, and porn would be blocked by default on every new internet service provider account, ever new mobile network account, every new device etc. But again if you're the account holder you can change anything you want in your settings. So you're not actually blocked from anything if you're the account holder.

    From what I can tell it wouldn't actually be that difficult to implement what I am suggesting. But the problem is incentive. A lot of companies probably wouldn't see much incentive in it.
     
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  10. Melkhiresa

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    It is already regulated, unless you are a very irresponsible parent it is easy(and recommended) to restrict your chid access to internet and also inculcating in him good moral value, now when he goes to a porn site and ignore the warning that most responsible site provide it is his own fault, as for adult if they want to watch people having sex they can do it.
    For one 18 is not the legal age of consent everywhere and a majority of today's country have already banned porn for all it is worth. I mean today they ban erotic videos but where does it stop? literature? though? and what about all these new self-promoting amateur "pornstar" as far as i know they do not abuse anyone, why shouldn't they sell their product?
    Government wiping our asses is not the solution. Same guys complaining about libs encouraging the use of porn will also complain about freedom of speech or whatsnot, but how is posting videos of you having sex any different?
     
  11. SlimTeleGuy

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    I do wish that there was a private internet company that could guarantee that porn wouldn't enter my household. I'd pay a subscription for such a service that was easy to implement and took care of everything from hardcore/tubesites, and even google image searches/spam email. Certainly, if google can tell me all the places I've been in the past month they can screen porn from all my devices. Or Verizon could make it easy to restrict certain sites with the flip of a switch. There's just too much money and interest in keeping this stuff widely available so easily. There's a trend towards legalizing more and more things like drugs and prostitution. I on one hand agree that it should be up to every person to decide what they want to do. But I think the decision has already been made once you are an addict and sex is everywhere. It seems harder to not find porn or something related to it, than it is to find it. Can't say the same for all the various vices. But we must in the end take responsibility for ourselves. Empower ourselves. We are more than capable of beating this addiction.
     
  12. This sounds like a great idea. People would still have power of choice as to whether or not they desired to have restricted internet, so long as there were competing service providers in the same market.

    However, I wonder if the FCC does not already have some rules that would prevent an ISP from blocking anything. If such were the case, it would be against the law to sell internet with these firewall restrictions in place.
     
  13. Pornographic videos cause societal harms as well as individual harm. If someone wanted to buy alcohol/drugs, it would require ID and money. Online porn has no cost and age barrier, if any. Porn is the number one source of sex trafficking in the world. Porn is one of the leading causes of divorce in the world. If someone gets severely addicted to porn, then they start to have porn-induced sexual dysfunctions, which impacts their relationship and their health.

    Erotic literature doesn’t cause the same issues as online porn does. Online porn needs to be heavily regulated.
     
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  14. HelperX

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    Lmao, sure, let's leave porn free and not do anything. I call bullshit on your comment.
     
  15. HelperX

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    It ain't regulated for shit. Porn needs to be banned, period. All the regulation conversation are useless. Porn can harm everyone, not just teens. You think that a 18+ person won't have effects on viewing filthy porn? They will. It just needs to be banned. Look at how many people are here who are asking for help on recovery, most of them are 18+, so why does porn need to be restricted to 18+ persons? It should be banned forever.
     
  16. Ekhangel

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    If you want to ban porn, also ban premarital sex, ban divorces, ban females wearing short skirts... It's obvious nonsense. And without slightest prospects of the legislation successfully being pushed through and then effectively enforced. Like how on earth would you prohibit people from sending amateur porn to each other via some concealed means intentionally devised to hide the purpose of the website from the legislator, or to evade the law by some other creative means? People will always find their way around dumb prohibitions of this sort. And there will be the added "forbidden fruit" trigger and the sense of excitement and rebellion against the "oppressive regime".

    What we need is a vital NGO social movement for restoring moral sexual standards in societies (based on condemning and shaming, but not prohibiting), not another prohibition and "war" on this and that. A change in the roots, not ineffectively imposed from above.

    What amazes me, for instance, is how the PornHub billboards in NYC avoided being smashed to pieces with stones and rotten tomatoes. But this is NYC, it's the breeding ground of decadence.
     
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  17. Melkhiresa

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    people here need to take responsibility for their own action, porn/sex addict are only a small part of internet user and no one forced them to use it till they social life got affected or they got PIED or whatever.
    I am gonna need a source on porn being a leading cause of divorce man, and i would say that prostitution which has always existed is the number one source of sex trafficking even if many have tried to ban it; porn is not free, what most people do when they "stream" online is little more than pirating(this harm amateur even more) so yes it does require at least a credit card to buy the good stuff so id and if someone is too irresponsible to watch porn(or drink alcohol) in moderation it is their own damn fault even if it is made to be very addicting nobody forced them to consume it(same with drugs).
    "Erotic literature doesn’t cause the same issues as online porn does."-cuz most people don't read much, but i had a friend who was addicted to hentai tough.
     
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  18. Pugsley

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    A week ago it would have said porn is free speech.

    But it's done a lot of reading and been on here and it is now coming to believe that porn--pictures, videos, erotica, etc--all have a negative effect on Men, women and society as a whole.

    It's starting to think a total ban might be the only way to save us
     
  19. Pugsley

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    Some people use drugs, but making it illegal at least makes it inconvenient and that dissuades a lot of people.

    You can walk you the store and buy beer on Your credit card. Drugs at least take a little more work... And that is useful.
     
  20. Pugsley

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    It hopes, as long as it was a free choice, the FCC would be ok with it. They wouldn't want the ONLY choice to be censored internet, but having that as one of many options should be ok
     

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