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I wouldn't ban porn. But I do think it should be automatically blocked as a default setting.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I'm not suggesting banning porn for people who are over 18 and choose to use it. All I suggest is having porn automatically blocked as it's default setting for every new mobile network customer and every new internet customer.

    Basically there is certain mobile phone networks who do this already. They have a setting called adult lock automatically switched on as it's default setting, which automatically blocks pornography. So when you become a new customer with one of these mobile phone networks when you first try to go on pornography it will be blocked. But if you make an account online on your mobile phone networks website you can easily turn this off using some form of ID, like a passport, driving licence, provisional.

    I think it makes sense to automatically do this with every new mobile network customer. I also think it makes sense to automatically to do this with every new internet customer, and you can turn this setting off on your internet service provider account online if you don't want it, or simply use a different dns.

    I feel like this should automatically be a default setting with every new mobile network customer and every new internet customer, and if you're over 18 and don't want it you can easily turn it off if you want to. This isn't blocking porn. You can easily turn it off if you want to.

    At the very least this system would automatically stop the majority of very young eyes stumbling across explicit websites online. If you're over 18 and the account holder you can turn it off no problem. So I really don't know why there would be people who would have such a problem with this. It almost comes across like they think the way it is the now is better, and pornography and explicit websites should automatically be available instantly on every device.

    Seriously what is wrong with having explicit websites automatically blocked as a default setting? and if you're over 18 and the account holder you can easily turn it off if you want to? What is so wrong with that?

    There is nothing against human rights what so ever with that set up.
     
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  2. This has been discussed too much.

    At the core main problem with blocking of content is that there is no automated way to block them, identifying websites as pornographic is incredibly complex task and we are far from being able to produce reliable solutions.
    If too loose it will let things though and defeat the purpose. You end up with filter that blocks allot of things not considered pornography and often content that is not pornography at all.
    How will you know that this blocker prevented you from going to legitimate blog about human rights? All it will tell you is that content you are about to see has been blocked.


    Which bring us to the second part of the problem, when you put in place controls that can stop people from accessing websites, those controls will inevitably be abused.
    Imagine, you the progressive human rights activist, sending a link to well written article to your friend who replies - "you sent me a link to porn" and thank god it was blocked.

    Imagine you are online store owner, and your competitor hires someone to write comments on your pages, that trigger the blocker, and your successful store, popular blog or community website disappears for the entire country.
    Have you considered that this community is going to be on the list of websites to be blocked, purely by content and keyword analysis?

    That is unfair people will say, and you will be told to file a form and wait for months to be reviewed.
     
  3. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Yeah and if you're over 18 and the account holder you can easily turn that setting off if you want to.

    Like I said certain mobile phone networks are already doing this. But I think every mobile phone network and every internet provider should do this.

    It's nothing to complain about. As you can easily turn this setting off if you're over 18 and the account holder.
     
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  4. First, how does this address problems I mentioned?
     
  5. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Look I think it's worse that any child at any age can go on any device and access any explicit website they want. You think it's worse if someone misses out on seeing certain information.

    and like I keep saying you don't need to have this setting on if you don't want it. So there really is no argument or anything to complain about. It only helps prevent people under the age of 18, mainly children from being able to access anything they want online.
     
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  6. There is an argument.
    Everything has positive and negative sides, your view is bias because it presents only the positive, you keep repeating the same "benefits" and how positive it will be.
    We know the benefits, we know it will reduce exposure of kids to explicit content, the issue is there is a negatives it brings, a price to pay, one we all would pay.
    Price that has nothing to do with pornography.

    With any decision we have to examine both the price and benefit, when people ignore this they often pay far more than they were willing. When societies overlook this we all pay far more than we were willing.
    How can decision of this scale be made without understanding both sides well, that is why it is still not made.
     
  7. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Well like I said some mobile phone networks already have this as their default setting. I believe this should be a default setting with every mobile phone network and every internet service provider.

    The reason why I don't think there is an argument is because if you're over 18 and the account holder you can easily turn the setting off if you want to. But I don't think young children should have the option to turn this setting off.

    So in reality most people over 18 wouldn't be being blocked out of explicit websites or certain information. The only exceptions would be if you live with someone else who is the account holder of the internet service provider account, or if someone else is the account holder of your mobile phone network account and pays your mobile phone bill.

    So if someone else was the account holder of the internet you use then you could ask them to turn this setting off, and if that failed then you could change the dns on what ever device you were using, or use a vp n. If these failed you could move out if getting on porn and getting certain information meant that much to you.

    If you were over 18 and someone else was the account holder of your mobile phone network account and refused to turn this setting off then you could simply pay your own mobile phone bill and become the account holder of your own mobile phone network account.

    Like I said certain mobile phone networks are already doing this. So the thing that you really don't want to happen is already happening to some extent. With any luck all mobile phone networks and all internet service providers will follow suit.

    I think it should be mandatory that every mobile phone network and every internet service provider has something like this as their default setting.
     
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  8. Indurian

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    I agree with you 100%.
     
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  9. mark_peter

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    A ban won't do it i guess. Also a blockage won't really help.
    Thing is: if you want to get aroused or see this shit you'll find ways to get it. It's the same with a drug addict. You have to develop a real "don't give a fuck" mentality about porn. When you reach this level and you don't even desire porn anymore you're safe. Other than that it's just running away from ur desires.
    Rather than finding ways to hide Porn not having to conquer ur biggest energy which is ur sexual energy u should get in contact with it and make it ur best friend which will lead u to creativity, more dominance, your true manhood, more testosterone and a more fulfilled life.
     
  10. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I get what your saying. But I'm not talking about blocking people over 18 out of explicit websites, I'm talking about stopping the majority of young people stumbling on explicit websites.

    At the moment there is just a door wide open to anything you want for everyone at any age. This doesn't seem to be a problem for a lot of people.
     
  11. Blockers are bad, because once they are in place they get abused for other goals.

    The problem needs to be cured at the source: Porn production and distribution needs to be outlawed and porn producers need to be put into jail.

    There are good reasons to outlaw porn production: For example there no ways to produce porn with undignifying and debasing the humans participating in it. Even if 18 years old girls usually with a history in child and drug abuse "consent" into it, this "consent" isn't worth anything. Almost anybody who appears in these productions is going to regret it later. This is the reason, why the existing porn also needs to be outlawed and removed from distribution.

    And yes, deleting porn from the Internet is completely possible. In fact shutting down a few major porn sites is all what is needed and that filth is gone.
     
  12. Here's the thing... you have to choose to go to porn websites. There's no need to block it if you can just stay away from it on your own. You don't accidentally click on porn and start jerking off to it - it's intentional. Stop going easy on people. We did this to ourselves.
     
  13. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    You can't put porn producers in jail, as the production of porn is legal. If you made producing porn illegal and they still continued to produce it then yes they could be charged and prosecuted for that. But you can't charge and prosecute someone for doing something when it was legal.

    I would probably rather if the production of porn was made illegal. But in reality I don't think they are ever going to do that.
     
  14. It's only legal in a few degenerate Western countries and places who lost WW2 like Japan. It's already outlawed almost everywhere else.

    They aren't going to do that, but we don't have to be ruled by porn producers. We can choose otherwise.
     

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