If there is no God, what is the point of life?

I think about this a lot, but I believe it's mostly about how you define God. Even Christians themselves could differ in certain aspects.

I believe that all of your actions are accounted for and that everyone is here for a reason and to learn. That said, one cannot deny the fact that in this existence we have freewill and all nature around us shows us survival of the fittest or constant struggle so in a way I understand why some would go for a pure Darwinian ideology. Especially considering all the different forms of horrors that many people on earth go through.

To stave existential crisis from hitting the plebs, the controlling bankers and merchants keep people preoccupied with entertainment, porn, fear porn, instigating hatred, always preoccupied with money, ideological subversion, etc..

I think overall one must realize that humanity is not religious at the moment, not in any meaningful way, one who understands the true reasons for the curfews in 2020 (i.e. "lock-downs") can see very clearly that the current majority if not all religious cleric are not true believers who will to stand up for their creed (of all true religions that is, excluding the one that describes all other adherents of other religions as animals), Nietzsche was right in a way when he proclaimed that people's true belief in a God is gone.

 

You could argue that if there is no afterlife you would be more responsible in this life because this is the only life you have (not a second life in eternity). In scripture it says, 'work out your salvation with fear and trembling' but my impression is most Christians don't take that verse seriously. They don't seem to think they should work out their salvation because Jesus is their salvation and there's no need for any fear or trembling since God's love takes away all fear. I hated that verse as a Christian but now, as an agnostic, I think it's a fantastic verse to live. I think we should work out what saves us and take it very seriously because there's a great chance this life is all we have.

As I said I used to be a Christian but I didn't lose my morals when I lost my faith. I don't want to indulge every sinful desire. I'm still trying to abstain from porn, still don't drink alcohol, don't do drugs and don't go around having fights with people. I respect people's boundaries and avoid saying and doing such things that offend them when I'm around them. Instead of assuming I know everything I listen to people without judgment. Even though I don't believe in everything written in the Bible I try to put James 1:19 into practice. I think one of the trouble nowadays is that people are being quick to speak and slow to listen. I'm not perfect and don't always live out my values but my deepest desire is to do so. I find that now I'm a non-believer I truly know what my values are because I've taken the time to figure out what they are. When I was a Christian I didn't need to think about my values since they were handed down to me from the Bible and the church.

I will admit sometimes I feel like life is meaningless but such feelings come and go. More often than not I'm focused on understanding people and the world to spend too much time on such thoughts. I don't know if there is a God. I think it's possible there is and equally possible there isn't. I find I'm a lot humbler as an agnostic because I take the position of not knowing. When I was a Christian I was quite arrogant, I thought I knew all the answers and everyone who disagreed with me was wrong. Not saying all Christians are like this but that's what I was like.

 

I don't think people are ok with that fact, we just live in willful ignorance; we live like we would be immortal, and then when we are sick or at old age, at death's door, we tremble in terror. And our solution to that is to delude ourselves even more—we either take up some fantasy of immortality from some religion, cos we are afraid to face the truth of our impermanence, or we distract ourselves through nihilistic pursuits and hope that death sneaks up on us in our sleep.

Well what if there is God, what's the point of life then? Is it any less meaningless? Why? I mean I am not a believer, so I don't actually know what would Christian say about this. But when I think in my mind about option that God might be real and Christianity might be true, I don't feel like it would give my life any more meaning. Right now it's still meaningless, but short, but then it would be meaningless for eternity—doesn't seem like an upgrade. Genuinely curious, as a Christian, what is it about God that gives you meaning?

Well what is is about eternal stuff that makes them more worthy or meaningful than ephemeral stuff to you? Is it just a projection of our fear of death? We are so terrified of annihilation that we try to cling to the world any way we can, and that is what makes us value lasting legacy, because it's a way to stay alive, if only as a soulless shade? I wonder what would happen if we would accept our impermanence and be in peace with it, would things like lasting legacy even matter then? Is our rejection of ephemeral nature of the world stems from our fear of mortality?

Last time I checked creator did not hold anyone accountable. Plenty of believers committing monstrous things in the name of God and plenty of nonbelievers acting morally out of reason and empathy. Very much the same way as plenty of evil deeds backwards rationalized through reason and plenty of bad prevented by fear of sin. Personally I would argue that if anything, evil is more dangerous if it is deluded itself that it has God at it's side.

Because human beings have reciprocal altruism, empathy and compassion build in our genes by evolution. Because we need these things to live in society; we are not solitary creatures.

 

Great insight. I wish you well on your journey.

 

If there is no God, what is the point of life?

The answer: death and non existence.

Death and non-existence can be for animals because they have no reason but only automatic instincts. So when they die they don't regret anything, don't have hopes etc. in their case death and non-existence has its aim and logic but for homo sapiens ( man with reason) it would be the biggest possible rubbish to live and only to die to non-existence. The logic and natural laws of this world never are so silly and pointless. So the nature says - there must be God who is able to ensure the man an afterlife to fulfill the sense of living on this earth.