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Andersen09

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Ive been researching off google and here are the tips. Just basic psychology for you guys.

Emotions("motion" of energy") is caused by thoughts you have. Just like cause and effect, in this form, cause is your thoughts and effect is emotions. For example, when an actor needs to cry for a specific scene in a movie, he thinks of a sad event to make himself feel sorrow.

How is this related to NoFap?

Nofap is all about controlling your sexual energy and using it into something else you want in your life. Not just jacking off and wasting your seed. Your seed is the most powerful emotion you have in your body. If you think about it, you were created by your father's seed and now you were brought to life. How powerful is that?

With that being said your seed is THE most powerful emotion/energy force you have in your body. And how does one get this sexual energy? You guessed it, your thoughts. You think about sex, hot girls, fucking this bitch and that, and next thing you know, you have a hard rock boner.

The method to controlling your emotion is first
1. to recognize when you are feeling aroused and that you are aroused in effect of whether conscious/or unconscious thoughts.

2. Change your thoughts of sex into achievements you would like in your life, and meditate on that thought for at least good 20 seconds. MEANING ONLY focus on that thought for good 20 seconds. For example, you're thinking bout how big of an ass that one girl has in your class and how you would love to fuck her. Your effect of that is arousal sexual energy. Now change your conscious thought stream to, lets say, in my case getting my studies done. I change my stream of thoughts and focus on that thought/ visualize achieving a 90+ on my final exam. NOW that sexual energy is still there BUT it's being transferred to another cause. I'm not suppressing it or ignoring it but using this energy in achieving something that I want.

I just tried this and its so crazy how good it works. If you're reading this and want me to get into details let me know. BUT FOR NOW, I'm back to studyingg baby!





http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?2814-Journal-of-Lee/page3
 
I went around google actually just typing sexual transmutation. Also, I'm majoring in psychology and have an awesome psychologist mentor who helps me with this also. Ranked 1 in his school. With that being said, its a mix of my own research and my knowledge of the science of cognitive function. :)
 
Ok cheers, the book and the audio programme I mentioned in the first link are really good, depending on how far you want tto explore this? :)
 
Thanks for the food for my thoughts. What you say is mostly true for me. I just have some problems with the way of expression. The first thing is: Thoughts can mobilize energy, but the source of our energy imho is solely our metabolism. The other thing is, when we meditate to our goals, we then will no longer deal with sexual energy, but we transformed it into another currency.
 
Harold said:
Thanks for the food for my thoughts. What you say is mostly true for me. I just have some problems with the way of expression. The first thing is: Thoughts can mobilize energy, but the source of our energy imho is solely our metabolism. The other thing is, when we meditate to our goals, we then will no longer deal with sexual energy, but we transformed it into another currency.
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Yes it does change into another 'currency'. The Chinese say our internal energy has 3 forms (in the way H2O can be ice, water, and steam- crude analogy but is fit for purpose) and those are jing(sexual energy), chi, and shen. Is worth googling these and seeing what you can learn but not every one will believe this etc (which of course doesn't make it any less valid for those that do) I guess your metabolism does generate energy but what fuels your metabolism/where does of get its energy from? I like to think we live in an energy 'field' that we are always 'plugged' into but which some of us have more powerful resistors (resistance) than others which can include (cultural?) beliefs(which can work either way), tension (anxiety, stress etc) and when i learned certain (mainly eastern) ideas and techniques that helped me plug/tune in more my energy levels increased significantly and more recently I have gone 50 something days without orgasm without 'too' much difficulty at all having been learning about sexual energy transmutation/sublimation etc. I've also felt a marked decrease in how much I think about sex etc which I really hope continues as that's a real monkey of ANY mans back!;) Anyway this may or may not be for you, either way I hope you find something that helps:)
 
This sounds really good, but...

Your advice sounds really good and I'm going to try it, because I have been having a serious problem with relapsing. I get close to the 30 day mark and then completely fuck it up. It feels almost like my brain is being hi-jacked and this other side of me convinces me that "you've done good, but once in a while is okay", "it's no big deal if you do", "and you know eventually you're going to give in anyway, so this is not a problem". Well, it is a big fricking problem; but unfortunately, it always comes into full view immediately after ejaculation.

My concern about your suggestion is that it sounds similar to redirecting your thoughts about hunger. I mean, if I'm trying to diet, and my stomach is growling up a storm, I can't simply try to focus my hunger thoughts on studying.

I'm not criticizing your suggestions, I'm just overly frustrated at repeated failures over the past 5 months.

Furthermore, I have a rather unique situation, in that I cannot do many of the things that most people can do to distract themselves. I won't go into details on where I am, or how I have Internet access, but I'm stuck in prison in a foreign country. Let's just say, corruption has its benefits while in this kind of situation.

In any event, being in this situation makes this a struggle that is far worse than being in the outside world. The problem is, you have lots of time on your hands, lots of reasons to want to mentally escape into fantasy, and unlike during the first year of my incarceration, where I was able to have conjugal visits, after having been transferred to a different facility, I am now no longer able to enjoy those. So, you see, things are kind of unique for me. Perhaps not unique in the sense of dealing with this from behind bars, but unique in that I can access the Internet and reach out for help.

Sorry if this dragged on longer than intended, but I'm just at the end of my rope and am hoping to succeed in my New Year's resolution to stop this shit, once and for all.

Best regards and thank you for your testimonials and I plan to follow in your footsteps.
 
Great post. This might help you guys too
If a desire arises within you, Tantra doesn’t say to fight it. That is futile. No one can fight a desire. It is foolish also, because whenever you start fighting with something within you, you are fighting with yourself, you will become schizophrenic, your personality will be split. And all these so-called religions have helped humanity to by and by become schizophrenic. Everybody is split, everybody is divided and fighting with himself because so-called religions have told you, “This is bad. Don’t do this.” If the desire comes, what to do? You go on fighting with the desire. Tantra says don’t fight the desire. But that doesn’t mean that you become a victim of it. That doesn’t mean that you indulge in it.

Tantra gives you a very subtle technique. When desire arises, be alert just at the beginning with your entirety. Look at it with your entirety. Become the look. Don’t leave the looker behind. Bring your total consciousness to this arising desire. This is a very subtle method, but wonderful. Miraculous are its effects.

With the entire being the look is so fiery that the seed is burned, with no struggle, with no conflict, with no antagonism. Just a deep look with the entire being and the arriving desire disappears completely. And when a desire disappears without a fight, it leaves you so powerful, with such immense energy, with such tremendous awareness, you cannot imagine it."
 
Z_the_B said:
Great post. This might help you guys too
If a desire arises within you, Tantra doesn’t say to fight it. That is futile. No one can fight a desire. It is foolish also, because whenever you start fighting with something within you, you are fighting with yourself, you will become schizophrenic, your personality will be split. And all these so-called religions have helped humanity to by and by become schizophrenic. Everybody is split, everybody is divided and fighting with himself because so-called religions have told you, “This is bad. Don’t do this.” If the desire comes, what to do? You go on fighting with the desire. Tantra says don’t fight the desire. But that doesn’t mean that you become a victim of it. That doesn’t mean that you indulge in it.

Tantra gives you a very subtle technique. When desire arises, be alert just at the beginning with your entirety. Look at it with your entirety. Become the look. Don’t leave the looker behind. Bring your total consciousness to this arising desire. This is a very subtle method, but wonderful. Miraculous are its effects.

With the entire being the look is so fiery that the seed is burned, with no struggle, with no conflict, with no antagonism. Just a deep look with the entire being and the arriving desire disappears completely. And when a desire disappears without a fight, it leaves you so powerful, with such immense energy, with such tremendous awareness, you cannot imagine it."
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Please don't ever post an Osho quote here again. The guy had tantric orgies with his followers, there's nothing authentic about him. A sellout. Quack guru. His words are sugar coated bullshit.
 
Mark said:
Yes it does change into another 'currency'. The Chinese say our internal energy has 3 forms (in the way H2O can be ice, water, and steam- crude analogy but is fit for purpose) and those are jing(sexual energy), chi, and shen. Is worth googling these and seeing what you can learn but not every one will believe this etc (which of course doesn't make it any less valid for those that do) I guess your metabolism does generate energy but what fuels your metabolism/where does of get its energy from? I like to think we live in an energy 'field' that we are always 'plugged' into but which some of us have more powerful resistors (resistance) than others which can include (cultural?) beliefs(which can work either way), tension (anxiety, stress etc) and when i learned certain (mainly eastern) ideas and techniques that helped me plug/tune in more my energy levels increased significantly and more recently I have gone 50 something days without orgasm without 'too' much difficulty at all having been learning about sexual energy transmutation/sublimation etc. I've also felt a marked decrease in how much I think about sex etc which I really hope continues as that's a real monkey of ANY mans back!;) Anyway this may or may not be for you, either way I hope you find something that helps:)
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I think people should click those links in your sig. I know you haven't been around since 2014 but you certainly found the light at the end of the fapping tunnel.
 
Thanks for the tips for the past week ive been going on a 3 day streaks than relapsing and it all started when I had a 27 day streak and I decided to fap to see how itd effect my progress tbh I wanna kill myself now so im trying to get back on track....
 
Andersen09 said:
Ive been researching off google and here are the tips. Just basic psychology for you guys.

Emotions("motion" of energy") is caused by thoughts you have. Just like cause and effect, in this form, cause is your thoughts and effect is emotions. For example, when an actor needs to cry for a specific scene in a movie, he thinks of a sad event to make himself feel sorrow.

How is this related to NoFap?

Nofap is all about controlling your sexual energy and using it into something else you want in your life. Not just jacking off and wasting your seed. Your seed is the most powerful emotion you have in your body. If you think about it, you were created by your father's seed and now you were brought to life. How powerful is that?

With that being said your seed is THE most powerful emotion/energy force you have in your body. And how does one get this sexual energy? You guessed it, your thoughts. You think about sex, hot girls, fucking this bitch and that, and next thing you know, you have a hard rock boner.

The method to controlling your emotion is first
1. to recognize when you are feeling aroused and that you are aroused in effect of whether conscious/or unconscious thoughts.

2. Change your thoughts of sex into achievements you would like in your life, and meditate on that thought for at least good 20 seconds. MEANING ONLY focus on that thought for good 20 seconds. For example, you're thinking bout how big of an ass that one girl has in your class and how you would love to fuck her. Your effect of that is arousal sexual energy. Now change your conscious thought stream to, lets say, in my case getting my studies done. I change my stream of thoughts and focus on that thought/ visualize achieving a 90+ on my final exam. NOW that sexual energy is still there BUT it's being transferred to another cause. I'm not suppressing it or ignoring it but using this energy in achieving something that I want.

I just tried this and its so crazy how good it works. If you're reading this and want me to get into details let me know. BUT FOR NOW, I'm back to studyingg baby!





http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?2814-Journal-of-Lee/page3
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Thank you. I'll try it out. I've been relapsing every week (1-3 relapses a week) since December.

The effects of PMOing are:
- legs little shaky
- some stinging sensation on my head and scalp
- fearimg social life (each time I go out after fapping, ppl become rude to me. When I'm on a streak, ppl treat me like a king)
- I can't defend myself (I become passive aggressive).

Your method will help me. I'm really sicl and tired of all the relapses. I wamt to live life pornfree.

Ps. I'll copy yourlink and share it in my profile and journal.
 
Hello how are you doing? I am the worst I got into car accident because of my addiction. I tried to get away from it but I can’t! I am becoming less human...I masturbated every week so I am becoming thin and thin. But I wish you good luck don’t be like me bruh
 
I think that this kind of advice is more useful to guys who haven't got a problem with edging. If you're like me, then you're going to relapse anyway because you can only retain focus on a task for about 5 minutes before going back to jacking off. The maximum I seem to be able to delay an urge for is about an hour or two, even then I can only do it by sleeping and with no electronic devices in the house.
 
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