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I'm Trying...

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by computergeek44, May 23, 2020.

  1. computergeek44

    computergeek44 Fapstronaut

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    Yesterday I printed my last post. Last night I read it. It took me a long time to process what people were telling me, and deciding if I agreed with any of it or not. It was on purpose that I didn't bring up the word "porn" in the post. I didn't know that it was ok to talk about that in the "lonely" section of these forums.

    I need some help defining porn. Porn sites are not my biggest temptation. It's been literally months since the last time I was on a porn site. Porn sites don't do to me what they are intended to do. I hate seeing nude women having sex with other men. Also when the people talk, they sound so unbelievable. (Stupid) My answer to porn sites is cleanbrowsing DNS inside my routers so that it blocks porn on all computers attached. My next level is a hosts file blocking script which eliminates even more of it.

    My answer to smartphones, is don't own one. I don't own one. I know if I had one I'd be tempted to look, and that's exactly what I'd be doing! So I don't own one. Hate it how companies are trying to force people to use them.

    Growing up, it was never porn that was catching my attention. It was something more subtle. It was girls at school wearing short skirts, and showing off cleavage. It was lingerie and bikinis. Or sometimes when they wear really tight clothing. It's the kind of stuff that is really hard to run away from. But a part of me loves it. And yet it's very depressing. In fact with the Internet it's even more depressing then it was back when I was a teenager. Now days you got girls flaunting their bodies on facebook, instagram, youtube, and the list probably goes on... We guys are expected to just "control" ourselves, and not look. Not M to it.

    Way back in 2010 facebook and I split ways. Now days facebook and all of it's sub domains are being blocked in my hosts file. Instagram and reddit are also blocked. The only one I keep around is youtube. I keep it mainly for tutorial videos, podcasts, and sermons. But it is a weak link in my chain. I can not control myself all the time. The best I've been able to do is limit how much time I spend on it. By keeping myself busy doing other things. The problem is, that method only goes so far... You can't keep yourself physically active 24/7, and every man has a desire for a companion and sex partner. That desire always catches up with me. What makes things even more sad, is how these girls or women, behave online. They only care about getting viewers. They don't care about meeting men online. A lot of them already got a guy in real life...

    In my next post I'm going to try and cover some missing pieces. Believe me things get a lot more complicated. I realize that I already tried to lay down the ground work in my first two posts. But I need to create yet another post and try to get that groundwork done better, and maybe include somethings that I neglected to add. I really need to talk about my relationships with people better, and how that plays into all of this. One of my biggest challenges is posting enough information that those who comment, can fully understand everything, so that things don't just keep going in circles.
     
  2. LOL
    Buddy, do you really think that blocking this is going to make it disappear?
    You cannot block everything in your way to self improvement.

    You can block and repress whatever you want, guess what? that sh*t is not going anywhere! You are missing the mark big time here.

    Expose yourself.
    Embrace the fire. Face it
     
  3. computergeek44

    computergeek44 Fapstronaut

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    Blocking has been my method since 2003.
     
  4. Your method SUCK.

    Repression is going to make everything worse.
     
  5. computergeek44

    computergeek44 Fapstronaut

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    I read the NoFap E-Book. Blocking bad sites is one of the methods they mention. Everyone has to find what works for them.
     
  6. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    You can block stuff, but ultimately you can't rely on it.

    I don't mean the security measures you've installed aren't dependable, I mean that in a context of.. Well heck, lets say cyborg solution. When blocking whether with the router or whatever digital system you are strictly focusing on the machine side, nothing is being done with the human side. For people who know computers it may be their strength and area of knowledge, but that is all the more reason why to start working on your own mind rather than just using it to work on digital information systems.

    Possibility 1 - blocking but not changing the mind, if you get exposed somehow, maybe even by your own thoughts and a memory, live or recorded p-Sub type stimuli you may still act out
    Possibility 2 - no blocking but changing your mind - even if you are inadvertently exposed to p or p-Sub, you will be stronger to resist acting on it.

    What I like to see is people who have need for it use it, but get to a point where they don't need it because they have their mind changed enough so they don't need the training wheels so to speak. To me it isn't that it's not viable, it's in the context where you want to progress to that point which means it'd be toward the beginning of the process, whatever that looks like for someone.

    Of course you can play it safe and do both, and maybe at some point you discover sexually suggestive stimuli won't do it or that you have no desire to bypass the security measures even if it is within your technical knowledge to do so. But obviously the human side is very different and it's a completely separate skillset, and it isn't like digital systems where you can "set it and forget it." I think a lot of people basically ignore the human side and treat the whole thing as a matter of access, but of course the irony is we ARE human. There's obviously great relevance for learning to work on that even if we don't do it professionally.
     
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  7. computergeek44

    computergeek44 Fapstronaut

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    At some point I will need to get rid of the Internet. I can not change me. I do not have that kind power to do that. My life is too sad and pointless to save for the reasons that Nofap outlines in the ebook. I'm just currently riding the waves of life as I wait for my death.
     
  8. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    That sounds like a very religious and/or depressed interpretation of 12 Step philosophy. The official Nofap ebook isn't everything to everyone here and change doesn't mean "power" except possibly in the sense that knowledge is power, but that would imply you have to A. be open to the possibility the knowledge exists somewhere to give one that power and B. try to learn that. As a tech I don't think you can deny the logic that somewhere there may be knowledge that can give you the know-how even if you don't yet know about it, and without already knowing that yet it can't be judged as whether it can work for you.

    But of course you are saying your life is too sad and pointless to save, so that statement isn't about whether it's possible but whether it's worth the effort. I think we can all agree that for many the life quality we have while addicted ISN'T worth saving - we want a better life. The general guess and hope is abstaining from PMO will do that or have these "benefits." I don't think it's that simple, but I think one can have a better life with other changes along with this one.

    I would rather give you helpful information than just a pep talk to try to talk you out of this depression, but we need to talk specifics to even begin to know what's relevant to your situation. Still though there's plenty of information on the forum.
     

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