Increased hair loss on SR?

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Askielle

Fapstronaut
I already overcame my addiction years ago; now, my goal is to gain more energy through semen retention (monk mode) beyond addiction. And it works; I get a tremendous amount of energy throughout the day. However, while I do have a high energy buildup on my longer streaks, I also experience severe hair loss at the same time. Not a receding hairline, but across my entire head. This has happened to me several times before. Whenever I resumed masturbating, my hair grew back immediately within 1 or 2 weeks.

The problem is that I don't want to start masturbating again. Actually, I don't really have urges; the only thing holding me back is the hair loss. And yes, I am more than 95% sure that it is linked to SR; I've tried it multiple times with the exact hair loss and hair regrowth timeline every time. I don't know what to do. I don't want to lose my hair, but I also don't want to orgasm again.

A thought I had was: Maybe it becomes worse before it gets better. That it is some part of a healing process that has physical side effects. Because there definitely is still some healing process going on. I am surprisingly productive, but honestly not happy at all (also not depressed, it's more like a very neutral and emotionless state). Still, if it doesn't grow back soon, chances are that the hair loss is permanent and it won't grow back.

Based on my observations, here's what happens: I get weird sensations in different parts of my body. At some point, I have a pressure in my head which persists for several weeks (it never stops, until I would PMO again). At the same time, my face muscles and the muscles on my head are under extreme tension (which might be linked to the hair loss), and my head itches a lot, but I can't bring that energy and tension under full control. I've tried meditation before, but that only helped a bit and also only while meditating. Once I stop, the tension builds up again.

Does anyone have an idea or even had a similar experience? I know that this is a very specific issue I never heard about before, still, I have hopes that someone can tell me what's going on.
 
The hair loss continues. Tried to get an appointment with a dermatologist, but waiting times here in Germany are up to a few months. By that time I would maybe loose most of my hair. It's weird how not even doctors help you.

From what I see in the mirror I lost around 10-25% (hard to say from just looking at it) of my hair during the last 2 months. Definitely way too fast, even for a genetic disposition to hair loss, and especially considering my young age of 25 years.

The SR creates a lot of stress. Not that work related type of stress, but more an intrinsic type of stress.
 
This is very interesting to me. I know you said it is happening all over your head, do you mean male pattern baldness or is it literally everywhere including the nape of your neck and sideburns?
 
Itsuki said:
This is very interesting to me. I know you said it is happening all over your head, do you mean male pattern baldness or is it literally everywhere including the nape of your neck and sideburns?
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Well, not on the sides and the back of my head. But still, the speed at which I lose my hair and the fact that the hair loss is diffuse is the concerning thing. It usually happens over many years, not weeks. Wouldn't be surprised if it is a hormonal thing. I mean I am going full monk mode, so I even suppress sexual thoughts to a high degree. At the same time, I have to be highly functional (going to university and doing roughly 1.5x the amount of credits I should normally do + gym). Creates a lot of stress/tension (mentally and physically).

Some other things I observed:
- bad breath & bad body odour in general (happens only on a long streak)
- headaches and increased risk of getting migraines
- my skin looks, to my own surprise, pretty good
- definitely more muscle growth

The bad breath, bad body odour and the headaches remind me of typical detox symptoms. If one trusts the internet, this could be quite common on SR.

I will also see a doctor instead and have a blood test done. If someone is interested: My diet is more on the (raw) plant based side, but I am not fully vegan.

My supplements:
- Omega 3
- B12
- Ashwagandha
- not daily: GlyNac, Magnesium, Kelp
 
I see, I see. Do you have any male relatives and do you know when they started balding? The obvious explanation would be that you are genetically disposed to start going bald earlier than average, but your pmo habit kept the male hormones in your body too low for that to happen. Now that you are on monk mode and working out regularly, the male hormone process is being expedited and your body is 'catching up'.

I am only about a month into monk mode, but I have also noticed the bad smell. I think it has more to do with perception than an actual change in scent, like a heightened sense of smell and self awareness. SR, in theory, should make you smell better, shouldn't it? Or are male pheromones naturally bad-smelling to men, perhaps?

Interestingly, I am also practically vegan/vegetarian, though solely for the purposes of managing libido and mood. I notice that red meat and dairy specifically seem to have disagreeable effects on my mind and body.

For the headaches, I doubt a blood test is really necessary. Maybe, just maybe, it is the ashwagandha?
 
Itsuki said:
I see, I see. Do you have any male relatives and do you know when they started balding? The obvious explanation would be that you are genetically disposed to start going bald earlier than average, but your pmo habit kept the male hormones in your body too low for that to happen. Now that you are on monk mode and working out regularly, the male hormone process is being expedited and your body is 'catching up'.

I am only about a month into monk mode, but I have also noticed the bad smell. I think it has more to do with perception than an actual change in scent, like a heightened sense of smell and self awareness. SR, in theory, should make you smell better, shouldn't it? Or are male pheromones naturally bad-smelling to men, perhaps?

Interestingly, I am also practically vegan/vegetarian, though solely for the purposes of managing libido and mood. I notice that red meat and dairy specifically seem to have disagreeable effects on my mind and body.

For the headaches, I doubt a blood test is really necessary. Maybe, just maybe, it is the ashwagandha?
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My grandpa and my uncle balded, as far as I know, somewhere between 30-40 years. My father is almost 60 and still has full hair.

Your explanation, that my body is 'catching up' could be possible. On the other side if you look into hinduism and buddhism, they report that SR actually helps with slowing down the balding process. And many who are on semen retention also report that it helped with regrowing hair. So I don't know...

To give you a better idea what I observed over the last years:
excessive masturbation (with porn) -> balding
some "healthy" masturbation -> no balding / regrowth
long term semen retention, but with edging -> no balding / regrowth (but also way less energy)
monk mode -> balding

Very interesting.

I don't want to do the blood test because of my headaches. I think this is just a common withdrawal symptom. I want to do it because of the balding. I also observe that uncontrolled movement of muscles which is quite typical with low levels of magnesium or electrolytes in general. Plus short breath, which is also common for electrolyte deficiency. I only have it on monk mode. In my >20 years before I never had that. But this is just a theory and placebo might be possible.

I take ashwagandha to cope with the stress. But it is also known to increase testosterone, long term. Maybe it is not the best idea to take it when balding. At the same time when it is decreasing stress, it might help with balding on the other hand. But I am not taking it very often, so don't know if it really has a huge effect on my body. (sorry, didn't put it on the 'not daily' list of supplements)
 
Very interesting pattern of balding indeed. My guess is you had a great love that, for one reason or another, was separated from you? For what other reason could sexual stimulation decrease balding while abstinence increases it? Doves die if they lose their mate, don't they? Obviously, I am stumped.
 
Itsuki said:
Obviously, I am stumped.
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Don't worry, me too. I will go and see a doctor as soon as I can and update this thread. My hope is still that it is some psychological detox (or/and physiological detox). But this is highly unscientific, even though the lack of stimulation can indeed have physiological side effects.

And yes, I lost someone I really loved. Still suffering years later. But that's life. Becomes more bearable every year.
 
I have hair loss too. Unfortunately for the majority of the last ten years or so I have had a retaining pattern which has seen me having ejaculation interspaced between one to four weeks. Apparently the one week release cycle causes a huge dump of testosterone upon release when you have retained for seven days. I am working on retaining long term in a permanent fashion. Not sure if it will help but I do think it will make a difference in my mood and emotions for sure. I am also working on ways to decrease sex drive and perhaps testosterone both in lifestyle and diet
 
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I have hair loss too. Unfortunately for the majority of the last ten years or so I have had a retaining pattern which has seen me having ejaculation interspaced between one to four weeks. Apparently the one week release cycle causes a huge dump of testosterone upon release when you have retained for seven days. I am working on retaining long term in a permanent fashion. Not sure if it will help but I do think it will make a difference in my mood and emotions for sure. I am also working on ways to decrease sex drive and perhaps testosterone both in lifestyle and diet
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Thanks for your reply. At the moment I would still say that it maybe could help. But I made the experience that it at least increases hair loss as a withdrawal symptom.

My current theory is: As I'm doing monk mode I face a combination of several stressors - no PMO of course; no fantasizing about sexual things; being, due to my university courses, highly functional in terms of thinking (maths, coding, etc). It goes well for quite some time. However, there are nights where I absolutely can't sleep (insomnia happens quite often, especially in monk mode). In combination with the increased stress, this might mess up with my hormones in the long term. High volatility in hormones is one of the biggest triggers of hair loss. It would explain why the hair loss stops and the hair even grows back when I stop retention. As soon as SR becomes less stressful the hair loss should (hopefully) go away.

I still went to the doctor last Wednesday and had that blood test done. Was a bit expensive, but may be worth it. Did the classics like some key nutrients and thyroid markers. Also Biotin, Zinc, Ferritin and sex hormones which maybe show some volatility. Let's see. Will update on that.
 
Askielle said:
Thanks for your reply. At the moment I would still say that it maybe could help. But I made the experience that it at least increases hair loss as a withdrawal symptom.

My current theory is: As I'm doing monk mode I face a combination of several stressors - no PMO of course; no fantasizing about sexual things; being, due to my university courses, highly functional in terms of thinking (maths, coding, etc). It goes well for quite some time. However, there are nights where I absolutely can't sleep (insomnia happens quite often, especially in monk mode). In combination with the increased stress, this might mess up with my hormones in the long term. High volatility in hormones is one of the biggest triggers of hair loss. It would explain why the hair loss stops and the hair even grows back when I stop retention. As soon as SR becomes less stressful the hair loss should (hopefully) go away.

I still went to the doctor last Wednesday and had that blood test done. Was a bit expensive, but may be worth it. Did the classics like some key nutrients and thyroid markers. Also Biotin, Zinc, Ferritin and sex hormones which maybe show some volatility. Let's see. Will update on that.
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Hi,
I an french sorry for my syntax. I had praticed SR since 2018 To 2023 increasing the number of days each release, 2018 just 4 days of SR each week. 2019 7 days then release. 2020 15 days then release. 2021 and 2022 1month and 1 and half month of SR and release. And hair loss came at this stage. I had full hair, strong hair line, and doing nofap more than 1 month gage me à lot of hair loss especially at front.
Then i have seen doctors, hairtransplant doctor and one confirmed me more testosteronne imply more DHT more hair loss. Point.
I have tried again changing a lot of habits and taken zinc. Iron . Etc...And back To fap each 4 days then hair line regrowth.
I am sad to admit i have To fap 1once a week otherwise to much Testosteronne is retained. One hypothesis is if we have mâle pattern baldness then NoFap accelereate it. That's it. Find the good number of day for no fapping. Look for all great known mens no fapping (Léonard de Vinci, mike tyson, Einstein...all bald)
So voila
 
How old are you? It can "speed up" at worse. Androgenetic alopecia means that hairs "suffers" from DHT (which depends by testosterone). If your hair doesn't suffer from DHT, you can have extreme amount of testosterone and have no problem in hair loss. In your case, you're already suffering from alopecia, but you're increasing the process of hair loss. You can't do a lot for this. Avoid finasteride/propecia at all cost (this is a bad drug with lots of adverse effects), you can try minoxidil 5% (it's a lotion) or do a hair transplant.
 
I have now 41. I ve found in sciences article than everybody has Mâle pattern baldness but some really really slowly for not say no, some others like you and me. I i mean yes i had pattern but really slow. Full head of curly hair from my mother until 38 y.o then i think it vas accelerate with nofap. The issue le that no doctors are aware of this point. Studies really poor. But the évidence is clear. I have reverse it with one release/week. And sometimes each 2 weeks. So i think this can be noticed after 2 years of practicing SR. For sure. I am good one week. No much prolactine released in one time. So good balance. The best is to find how many days you feel good with NoFap. But not doing this too much. For example i know that boxers praticed nofap arround 4 month before huge fight. You can look at their hairs receiding. But this is to analyse specifically this is an idea
 
Why are you on SR? To cure PIED or for other reasons? If it's for PIED is a thing, but if you do it for so-called "super-powers" then it's another story. I would do huge SR only for PIED, honestly. If you started to see somthing after 38yo then you're very lucky, since most of men that suffers from alopecia have visible baldness at their late 20s already. Anyway, if you've very light alopecia due to SR, minoxidil is truly effective and can reverse the effects (and you can still be on SR).
 
I dont know what mean Pied sorry can you advise? No i do this because i am past MMA fighter and discover the SR praticing sport and fight, more strong, berger bien, ... then i have read about this in asian culture (taoism) and sr help to cure insomnia too. SR prevent sleep issue. The energy of earth in your body is necessary.
Then minoxidil i am using it but i Will quit.
My messages was To explain SR accelerate male pattern baldness for sure after 2 years. Be carrefull.
Or maybe when mens are more than 45 or 50 and testosteronne is droping it can help To do SR.
 
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PIED is erectile dysfunction induced by abuse of porn (in practical terms: it won't get up when needed) but I think that's not your case.
 
Might be genetics. If anything retaining keeps more keratin in your body which helps with hair growth :
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### 1. **Rosemary**
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### 2. **Peppermint**
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### 4. **Horsetail**
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### 11. **Amla (Indian Gooseberry)**
 
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