Is Climate Change Real?

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  1. Mr. McMarty

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    Is Climate Change Real? How can we stop it? Should we take away peoples rights to combat climate change?
     
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  2. C12345

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    It's real.No point in denying it. And theoretically we can stop it, but that won't happen.
     
  3. Mr. McMarty

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    How do we stop it?
     
  4. C12345

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    Google
     
  5. Mr. McMarty

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    I agree the climate is changing and has always changed. The question is? Is it man made?
     
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  6. Max Fisher

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    Could it be changing for the better?
     
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  7. need4realchg

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    It’s not real enough to care about or fake enough to stop the media from using hyperbole about it.
     
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  8. Mr. McMarty

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    It is real in the sense that the earth rotates around the sun and tilts at an ever-changing angle, and this affects the overall climate long term. So do solar flare cycles. So do Volcanic eruptions. Yes, the climate has always changed but do we want to make it an excuse to give power to the government?
     
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  9. Yes the climate of the earth historically has had some changes due to the naturally occurring geographic events you have just mentioned. However, when we talk about climate change in the modern day we're not worried about the celestial or naturally occurring events that change climate, as they happen on very large time scales and are cyclical in nature. You brought up axial tilt, something that definitely has an effect on earth's climate but on a time scale of roughly 41,000 years.

    What we are seeing currently that is causing so much concern is the breakneck pace at which our climate is changing, something that is completely new in nature. If you take a look at the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere historically, there has never been a time in the past 800,000 years where the levels are as high as they are today. That is something that cannot be solely attributed to volcanoes and axial tilt, but rather can only be explained by the pollution created by Humanity.
     
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  10. need4realchg

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    Yeah. The fact weather is politicized is a shame.
     
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  11. You bring up a very interesting point that I think really commonly gets conflated today when we discuss climate, especially in political settings. The word weather refers to essentially a snapshot in time. It refers to the specific barometric pressure, temperature, dew point, wind speed, etc. of a given place at a given time. Very specific and in the moment.

    On the other hand, climate refers to the overall trend in these observed data. Generally speaking, climate data is accepted when observed over a 30-year period. So when people bring up the localized weather in an area as a defense against climate change, it's a very different thing. Obviously if you look at the weather in say, Antarctica, you're going to find days where the weather is well within what has been observed as normal historically. But what's more concerning is when the overall climate data for that region shows marked and extreme increases in temperature, far outside of what is considered normal in Earth's history. That's where climate change really comes into play.
     
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  12. MLMVSS

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    Still making sock puppet accounts I see?
     
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  13. ⏳⏳⏳

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    Who cares? Amsterdam will go the way of Atlantis and there'll be palm trees in Antarctica. Sounds cool to me.
     
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  14. MLMVSS

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    Climate change is real, and human activity does have an impact on the climate. We see it in desertification due to deforestation, the urban heat island and development in general.

    The world ending in 12 years or 18 months or some number because of climate change, however, isn’t true, and is only an excuse to push taxes on people. This has been done since at least the 1980s, if not sooner with “global cooling”.
     
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  15. I don't disagree that palm trees in Antarctica would be lovely, but the other consequences are unfortunately more dire than just that. As ocean levels rise the countries in the south pacific in particular will be swallowed by the sea, displacing many millions of people, creating yet another migrant crisis as people move to seek refuge from the rising seas. What's more is coastal areas will be subject to more intense and damaging hurricanes and tropical storms, seeing as warm air feeds these storms. Not to mention wildfires will be more rampant and destructive, our so called "bread basket" region in the US will become too arid to support crops, and wildlife will go extinct in orders of magnitude not previously experienced in history. The list of scary consequences goes on and on. Kinda spooky stuff.
     
  16. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    It's too late to stop now! (Assuming everyone is trying to stop, which sadly isn't happening or looks to be happening anytime soon!)
     
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  17. Exactly, the world will not simply come to an end in the timeline they've established. That crazy small number of years that we have is simply an estimate of the amount of time we have left before the effects spiral out of control. Before we've effected the climate enough that the feedback loops take over and the effects become irrevocable. But you're right, that number does help to motivate policy.
     
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  18. need4realchg

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    Can we survive without : San Francisco, Miami, Long Island and Atlantic City?


    My family is from an island in the Caribbean that will be affected.

    According to the Bible, all islands will disappear before Jesus comes. How else did people imagine that was going to happen ???
     
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  19. MLMVSS

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    Seems like a self-fulfilling prophesy in a sense, probably in combination with the earth being pissed off at us.
     
  20. It does say that, yes. However it also talks about angles dumping bowls of God's wrath on the earth. Surely that is something we want to avoid?
     
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