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Is "edging" a problem for you?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by learning, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    I seem to have picked-up the habit of edging, and this makes PMO a long and arduous process for me. I keep backing-off before I orgasm, but I can't stop without an orgasm, so on and on it goes for hours.

    Just wondering if others have this problem. Is it the same as DE (delayed ejaculation)? I think I could ejaculate if I would simply stop the compulsive edging.

    How does a person unlearn this habit?

    Is this a more common problem for women? (I'm a 51 year old man, so my libido is lower. I have always heard that orgasms are difficult for some women.)
     
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  2. JWeath

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    I too picked up edging about 7 years ago. I think (and I also saw in some video somewhere recently) that edging is the worst thing you can possibly do. During my first NOFAP streak, I convinced myself that edging was okay as long as I didn't ejaculate. Well... that didn't last. I was feeding my addiction and trying to trick myself into believing that it was okay as long as I didn't ejaculate.

    During my PMO days (only 10 short days ago) I would edge over and over before ejaculating. It was like I didn't want the feeling to end, because as soon as I ejaculated, the fun was over. And it was back to feeling the shame of what I'd just done. Edging ruined me.
     
  3. PrimalFeeling

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    Yeah, huge problem. We are talking hours upon hours. It keeps me in a state of trance, I feel like a fucking plant when im doing it but I can't stop. Every time I think to myself I will stop next video but I don't.

    Today I relapsed, New years fucking day and here I am in my trance. Oh well, I am out now. Listening to the birds and trying to connect with my inner self. Sometimes i feel like it will never end. But I have to believe.
     
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  4. Lissie

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    I think more a guys thing
     
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  5. Davidphd1866

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    I am with you @learning. Edging is a very insidious thing. VERY tough to stop. So many tricks the mind plays....."Oh, just see if you can still get hard...then stop...." HAHA!

    Good luck to you in 2018. Good luck to all of us.
     
  6. MarinoBigFan1984

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    Edging to me is toture. It makes no sense.
     
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  7. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    It seems to me that short streaks of nofap are better than surrendering to the addiction. There may not seem to be hope, but if you keep fighting and experimenting without condemning yourself for failure then something might change. Also, you have some freedom and your body can heal a little during those short streaks of nofap.

    I totally understand how discouraging it is to fail. I can't seem to go more than a week, because I am so dependent on the brain chemistry of arousal. It's not my libido that drives me; it is depression due to withdrawal apparently.
     
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  8. You probably predicted this answer, but the way to unlearn this habit is not to PMO or MO at all! Even if you occasionally relapse you'll be too sensitive to edge in the way you described, once you do NoFap enough.

    I made this post in the Rebooting section yesterday, if it's any good to you:

    "I've been on NoFap for over two years. I was never into "edging", or at least edging without eventually orgasming. When people mentioned edging as if it wasn't that bad and wasn't a relapse, I thought they were nuts.

    However.. I did sometimes do what I now call "mental" edging. I would look at P-subs (which would often lead to P), chat rooms and other bad stuff. I wouldn't M, but I was still getting a dopamine fix and basically what I was doing wasn't much better than "proper" edging. And of course, this would often lead to a typical PMO relapse, or very occasionally an O without any M.

    Long story short, learn from my mistakes and save yourself a lot of time. Cut out all P-subs, P, chat rooms, personal ads, even dating sites if they're a problem for you (they are for me). Or anything else that is a problem for you for that matter. Don't edge and don't mental edge. And if you find yourself fantasising, stop immediately.

    If you do this you're probably going to have to find better ways to manage difficult emotions, feelings, thoughts and so on. So find some ways! Different things will suit different people.

    If you do relapse try not to think of it as a failure. Let's say your five-day streak ended. Well, at least you succeeded for five days! Five steps forward, one step back. But obviously don't make excuses to relapse."
     
  9. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    I don't think that will work for me, because I am older (51) and my libido is less. Edging is probably a lot easier for older PMO'ers, because there is more effort required. Edging seemed to be a habit that sneaked-up on me as a natural result of realizing that I could not ejaculate more than once a week (compared to three times when I was young), so I needed to make it last. Now it seems like I go for 8 hours and I feel enslaved.

    I agree with the rest of what you wrote.
     
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  10. Had that problem and it sucks.. It keeps you on heat for too long and then you get physical pain too. Not worth it.. Not to mention the probability to relapse is very high.

    It needs to be avoided in order to progress with the recovery.
     
  11. Gota

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    So you point it right, you edge not because of libido, but because your addicted brain requires the new dopamine dose. When you edge you get prolonged dopamine injections. It some kind of self-medication I think.
     
  12. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    Welcome to the forum, Gota :)
     
  13. MarinoBigFan1984

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    If you edge you might as well cum there is no difference to me. Edging hurts.
     
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  14. Definitely a problem for me. I used to justify it by thinking I was sort of training myself to last longer. But after years of addiction I realized although the trance-like state of arousal was lasting for hours, my erections were becoming more sporadic. Something backfired along the way.
     
  15. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    When I google "edging" the articles all seem to promote the idea to improve libido and so forth. It's interesting how little negative is said against edging or PMO. I have tried to get advice from my therapist, telling her that I think I am basically a sex addict, but she just laughs it off. There isn't much awareness of the addictive nature of these things.
     
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  16. Heian

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    Edging is performance enhancing when done right.
    1. Stroke shaft don't touch the tip.
    2. stroke untill you are feeling the PONR
    3. STOP.
    4. pull up pants and do something else.
    Thats correct edging. i would not recommend this to someone with an addiction for PMO.
    if you want to do it do it right. else get rid of the addiction first.
     
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  17. JWeath

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    I think anyone with a PMO addiction should stay as far away from edging as possible. Experience with a partner is what will eventually increase your sexual performance. I think the undue STRESS we put on ourselves to be performance SUPERHEROES is a major problem. The right partner will be more than willing to explore sex with you in a healthy, positive way. EDGING is like pouring gasoline all over your body next to a raging inferno.
     
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  18. JWeath

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    I went to therapy and my therapist could not help me with my PMO addiction. In fact, she admitted as much and referred me to a sex addiction clinic. I never went. I think, looking back, my window to accept help from a therapist was small. And when she couldn't help me in the way I needed her to, I just gave up. That was two years ago. Happy to say though that I am in a much better place now.
     
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  19. Yes I agree. The way I did it over the last few years - probably not the 'right' way to edge based on what was posted earlier - has only numbed me out and made me get a warped view of what sex even is. This artificial and unnatural process, repeated over and over with extended sessions has really removed me from responding to healthy human connections with real women.

    I think a serious commitment to no-PMO can over time heal this, as I did start to feel this natural response to interacting with actual females in the wild awaken within me again during my last streak. I'm going to abstain from all PMO but especially this binge-edging b.s. going forward and try to rebuild my ability to form social/romantic connections and hopefully my body and mind will begin to heal again.
     
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  20. GreaterThingsAwait

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    Ah edging, the ultimate sensoryy numbing, time wasting, brain polluting mastrubation method i have ever employed. Avoid it like you would brussel sprouts, become a two pump chump if you need to... On a more serious note yea it really was one of the worst decisions i ever made - coupled with porn this duo would leave me braindead after every session. Doing it highly increases the chances of relapse - its a trap dont do it.
     
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