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Is just vanilla masturbating going to decrease effects as much as full PMO?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by nofapper94, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. nofapper94

    nofapper94 Fapstronaut

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    If I masturbate every now and then without porn, will the benefits of NoFap go down as significantly as if I had beat off to a porno? Thanks.
     
  2. IGY

    IGY Guest

    Not as much. But why accept any slowing down at all? If you have a compromise mentality it will make it much harder to complete this challenge.
     
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  3. nofapper94

    nofapper94 Fapstronaut

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    @IGY You're right. Thanks man.
     
  4. taqwa

    taqwa Fapstronaut

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    For me, masturbation is the gateway to PMO. Stay away from it. It can also lead to sexual dysfunction and the inability to ejaculate in a normal vagina. Also, damages your relationship with your partner in that it decrease your libido for sex. Stay strong and good luck!
     
  5. volt2187

    volt2187 Guest

    I feel too it can be a gateway of sorts back into p as often I would need p to be able to mo. Also when I just mo I have a huge amount of shame and feel like a cloud is over me, as it usually involves me having dirty thoughts about women I know, which truthfully I don't want to have but in essence I "use" them for my own pleasure.

    This is why I set up a second counter because I honestly feel I have broken free from the need to view p, but I find it very easy to fall back into my old thoughts, which is what bothers me the most.
     
  6. lionace

    lionace Guest

    dear nofapper94,

    i remember asking myself the very same question a few weeks before. i used P heavily and somehow shifted away from it by developing some crazy techniques and weird imaginations. this improved my overall kick so much that it rendered porn dispensable. first, i was glad and even proud because it seemed like proof i was not addicted.
    in fact, now i came to believe, the real problem is lust and the exaggeration of the kick which i feel from O however i would reach the climax.
    one thing that made me pretty sure about this fact was the observation that either stimulation technique (crazy tools, imaginary dreams, pr0n,...) would increase the kick level for a couple of weeks, but then get weaker again.

    another thing i realize is that after O i feel the urges much stronger and more frequent while experiencing a lower self-confidence and overall happiness.
    I am not sure where abstinence (PMO mode) will bring me but trying out to reboot currently.

    Update: to relate better to the original question i'd like to add that in my case 'vanilla' masturbation doesn't actually exist - it is always closely tied to erotically touched imaginations of some kind... can you really beat it off without brain cinema?
     
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