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Is porn without masturbation really all that bad?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by goodnice 3.0, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. hollyman

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    LOL,, yeah man i mean we are so far away from naked woman only to the point idk if that category still exsist tho

    but the scary part is if i can remember seeing a a naked woman is considered porn back then (at least for me) but now without beating or sick stuff its not porn for me

    and wow you have 200+ streak can i ask something ?
     
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  2. Emanuil

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    yep, same here, the sicker, the darker - the better :(
    sure, go ahead shoot ...
     
  3. hollyman

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    my highest streak was 180 days, i had this huge stress and horny level back then because of lack gym exercise (special thanks to our gov and corona) and i didnt have any wet dream... so in those moment i kept edging with lucid imagination until one day its blown ..i relapse from lucid imagination and because of that i go nothing to loose mode and consume a huge chunk of porn.

    if something like that happen again (high streak, high horny level) what i must do ?

    because after the big relapse my porn category is become more extreme than before,,, and it took me almost 2 month to even have today streaks,,,,i was afraid if that happen again

    thank you
     
  4. Emanuil

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    From what you’ve written, it seems that you are using porn mainly as a stress relief. Most guys do, but they are not aware of that. The truth is that those 3.5 seconds of orgasm can’t really relax you, and that the problem (the one that you were stressed about in the first place) will persist. You’ll feel anxious and nervous again and in no time you’ll be searching for the weird shit;) Search for more extreme porn in that situation is normal (same here). You can’t be excited anymore with the clips you’ve already watched, so you need other types of “drug” and bigger dosage.
    If you decide not to watch porn, then your “lucid imagination” steps in.
    You should work on the problems that cause anxiety and stress – so they would occur less. If there’s nothing you can do about that, my advice would be to try to look for another way to blow off some steam. You can work out at home if the gym is closed. That’s what I do.
    It’s also important to try to understand what exactly happens before you feel the urge to masturbate (is it just anxiety and stress?) and how do you feel after (do you feel better?). When you understand how that cycle works in your case, you can make some kind of plan for what to do in crises situation. You should also try to realize why that specific kind of porn arouses you. That might be related to some other problem.
     
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  5. Randy Andy

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    You feel like you don't want to give up porn when really it is that you cannot give up porn, not you yourself. There is probably another part of you that does want to give it up in the sense of being free of it. But it isn't really about what you want if you aren't able to stop based on wanting to.
     
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  6. Ghost79

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    I think P without M wrecks your mind then anything else! But just vanilla M every now and then when your single is actually perfectly natural.
     
  7. hollyman

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    thank you and yes that describe perfectly.. deep in my heart i dont mind if i relapse again, as long as i finished my main stress issue.... but i realize that relapse make me far away to complete my problem,,,because i dont know i cant think straight...especially on the first 7 day

    thank you bro
     
  8. Emanuil

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    you're welcome. if relapse demoralize you, bothers you and makes harder for you to keep fighting, you might want to change strategy.
    Try different approach. Why don't you try AP or AP group ... some counseling, or something ... find something that works for you.
     
  9. u376

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    Hi brother....
    As for my experience....not masturbating has it's own physical benefits
    But if you keep watching porn ....then you will feel unmotivated, depressed.....even worse than before
    Because somehow your brain is orgasming....it's always on a high....
    So no one should consider this.....infact it wastes more time than jacking off on a particular video.....
    And dopamine from Instagram is also bad if you are watching girls on it.....but dopamine from anime, movies is not that bad..... because you are actually witnessing a story....which can count in healthy entertainment
    With porn we are actually postponing our orgasm.....our brain is searching constantly for more novelty shock
    This novelty shock is the real problem of porn which anime movies or even video games don't have
    That's my take
    Correct me if I am wrong
     
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  10. u376

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    Hi brother
    No I am not lying
    I will you the truth
    From 5 Dec 2017 to 24 Nov 2019 I was masturbation free
    I did watched a lot of porn
    Infact I was enjoying the constant arousal without fapping
    So masturbation become less interesting to me
    And I do have a large number of wet dreams during this time period.....and I had made even a thread to track it
     
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  11. My hat is off to you I suppose, though I am not sure what it is that you have accomplished. If what you say is true you are an outlier.
     
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  12. goodnice 3.0

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    thank you, this is what i was looking for. Someone who has actually tried it for a long time, and tells his results.
    I will avoid. Hope you are better now?
     
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  13. goodnice 3.0

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    why do you think that? Have you tried it? Thats a bold claim to make. Obviously P with M will wreck your mind worse than P without M
     
  14. goodnice 3.0

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    did you still get the physical benefits though, like better skin, brighter eyes, etc? Just curious
     
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  15. Breadman

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    I’d say masturbating without Porn is infinitely better than porn without Masturbating. Porn is your primary enemy.
     
  16. Mo1989

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    Whats the point of getting sexually excited and don't release the tension by masturbation ?
     
  17. Mo1989

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    Its just abnormal. Its like trying to quench your thirst with an empty bottle. Its so stupid.
     
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  18. Mo1989

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    There is no definition or scientific explanation to that so far. sexual gratification is meant to be enjoyed with a person in person without any pressure. Its like eating your favourite food. Tell me can a picture of your favourite food makes you less hungry for that food or more ? It has to be real ;)
     
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  19. Ghost79

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    Because with porn you are filling your mind with a overdrive of dopamine's and other chemicals and it will stay there untill you M, which will have a damaging effect on you.
     

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