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Is porn without masturbation really all that bad?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by goodnice 3.0, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Yes it is. Don't watch porn
     
  2. goodnice 3.0

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    id say the opposite. why do you say that. because i have tried both and masturbating is really what drains you. If i watch porn without masturbating, then the only downfall is sometimes feeling bad mentally. But besides that, it really doesn't effect me much. Whereas, masturbating without porn tires me out, makes me feel crappy mentally, makes me really demotivated and causes a host of other bad side effects.
    I would argue that masturbating is the bigger issue (that is if you can watch porn without masturbating)

    That being said, I have decided to quit porn, because of what i wrote in bold in the OP.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2020
  3. goodnice 3.0

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    exactly!! so you are with me, that fapping is the real issue, not porn?
     
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  4. I used to fap without porn and I ended up going overboard with that. So I personally consider fapping without porn bad. Porn certainly makes fapping worse but fapping itself is not too good either, at least that's what I think.
    To the original question, I guess it is bad? I've watched hentai just for the plot without fapping (even though the plot isn't really worth watching). But I haven't done that with normal porn. I guess it is bad. Porn is apparently linked to all sorts of trafficking stuff and other horrible things so watching porn without masturbating may not have any direct negative effects on you (or it might idk) but it could promote those horrible activities.

    I suggest you watch movies or anime or something else you like because it's a better way to spend time than watching porn.
     
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  5. That's true. Impacts on physical health are caused by masturbation. It affects our mental health too. I don't think porn causes physical damage but it could affect your brain i.e. the way you think and perceive things.
     
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  6. thinking_differently

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  7. They're both energy drainers. Both bad and both useless. Both get you nothing but bits of pleasure.
     
  8. Breadman

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    Let me ask you. If you came upon you son at age 11 masturbating in the bathroom or looking at hard core porn on the internet which would concern you more. He could masturbate for the rest of his life. (I still do and I’m 71) or continue going down the rabbit hole of pornography where things have degenerated unbelievably. Masturbating is dangerous if it excessively substitutes for Life. Porn leads nowhere good.
     
  9. Hardwork11

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    i cant watch p with out fabing .if i watch 2 or 3 videos of explicit materials i get blue balls and rush to m.
     
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  10. goodnice 3.0

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    if son only looked at porn but didn't masturbate, then him masturbating for the rest of his life would be much worse, draining his semen.
     
  11. goodnice 3.0

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    things degenerate because you are fapping to them. Just looking doesn't cause much harm. If i just look at some gangbang scenes, i will just be repulsed. If i fap to those gangbang scenes, that means i have reached the point where i have degenerated
     
  12. thinking_differently

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    Yes.
    Why Masturbate?
     
  13. Honestly, I see where you're coming from, I really do. I also think that masturbation alone can do much more harm than porn alone. However, imagine a 12 year old watching gangbang scenes, r*pe scenes, incest scenes. Even if he doesn't fap, his mind will still be warped by these disgusting scenarios. His perception of sex will be all wrong. What about the people who watch gay and trans scenes and grow up without really understanding their sexuality?

    MO is the part that messes with your brain chemistry, it's what makes PMO addictive. However, P is the thing that messes with the way you think and perceive women. It's not harmless, even by itself.
     
  14. Tuscarora Rover

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    Goodnice, look, 17 or so US States legislatures have declared porn a public health emergency. Furthermore, as I believe you are a Christian, just remember in the New Testament we are told whatsoever things are good, pure, lovely, of good report, if there be any virtue, or any praise, think on these things: and to flee sexual immorality: and Paul told Timothy to view the elder women as mothers and the younger as sisters, with all purity. This does not leave room for viewing random women’s bodies and lusting after them! Yes, M can drain your bodies energy, but P will drain your mind! Please stay away from this garbage! I have had my wife lock up my phone so I can only access two good websites, this being one of them. You have to fight the good fight if you are going to win. And by the way, I’m pretty sure viewing nudity will only fuel the fire for M later on.
     
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  15. u376

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    Yes better than before with occasional urges
     
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    I gain more weight specially belly fat which is not good
    My stamina increased very much
    During morning running I was able to run for a longer period of time without tiring much
    Less hair fall....and overall more energetic than before
     
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  17. goodnice 3.0

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    my point is he wouldn't want to watch those scenarios for too long, since he hasn't associated M with them. He will be disgusted with them. He isn't actually gonna spend hours everyday simply watching these scenes without M, it would be too weird for his 12 year old mind
     
  18. goodnice 3.0

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    ya i would agree 100% with your take on this:)
     
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  19. Tuscarora Rover

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    I agree with Star above saying that masturbation is a problem. I would just add that it’s true the Bible does not specifically ban many things but through a thorough reading of it, one gains an understanding of the kind of purity, and righteousness the Christian is encouraged to pursue, and I can’t believe that porn exemplifies such a lifestyle. Of course that’s up to you and what you believe. However I believe most believers, and even non believers I’ve spoken to.. will hold that porn has no value and is an inherent waste of time and morally degrading.
     
  20. goodnice 3.0

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    All people will be saved eventually. This is called universalism. Sounds heretic i know, but i studied it and its the truth. Eternal hell is an evil lie. God is love, light, and life. Youtube channel: The Total victory of Christ

    But thanks for the reminder to view elder women as mothers and younger women as sisters
     
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