is there a fantasizing induced ED?

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by ldf, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. ldf

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    I've read writeups with porn induced ED, where one cannot get aroused with a real woman in front of you.

    What if it's not about watching p0rn, but over the years, just fantasizing and visualizing in your head of sexual encounters, could this/ does this induce the same rewiring of the brain, and to ED?
     
  2. ultrafabber

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    Sexual fantasizing is just mental porn, so the same consequences apply.

    Sexual fantasizing can't provide as much novelty as porn can, but if you can stay sexually aroused by fantasizing, you're already watching porn.

    I remember i used to be able to sexually fantasize for hours, even without touching myself or ever ejaculating. After such a session, i'd be completely zoned out and spent, it was in some ways even worse than a quick wank. Sexual fantasizing can definitely fry your brain and your dick.
     
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  3. overclocked

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    We just don't know for certain, but I think it is possible to get ED from fantasy alone. Some people have very good fantasizing skills. When these people picture something in their heads, it's almost as if it was real to them. Add masturbating to that, and I don't see much difference between fapping to fantasy and fapping to porn.

    We also have the rewiring aspect. Fantasy is still not real life. You could potentially unwire from real sex and wire to fantasy sex, causing arousal issues (ED).

    Then there is the aspect of exhaustion. Alcoholics and cocaine addicts have ED issues, because their reward systems are desensitized in general.
    Another interesting question remains: could too much sex cause ED? Since you are wiring to real life partners all the time, the arousal response mechanism will remain intact. I believe you would not get ED from too much real life sex, but you might get exhausted, leading to addiction, depression and those numb orgasms that some rebooters have.
     
  4. ultrafabber

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    I fully agree. From personal experience i could get more aroused though fantasies sometimes.

    There is a major difference between sex and masturbation - prolactin release after ejaculation from sex is 400% in intercourse than ejaculation from masturbation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16095799

    Prolactin turns off your sex drive and is related to sexual satiety.

    The body seems to have a very good way of preventing "too much sex", whereas it can't really stop "too much masturbation" - probably why so many people get addicted to masturbation (and probably can't really stop "too much sex fantasy" either).
     
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  5. liveclean

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    I don't see how fantasising can give you erectile dysfunction. If you're with a woman and can't get it up just fantasise about whatever it is that gets you going.
     
  6. overclocked

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    That way you will forever remain dependent on fantsizing. It should "get up" automatically.
     
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  7. I did not thin about it until reading your post. But I think it does. It means you're zoning out of the present because there is something better in you imagination. The reality seems not be good enough. Having sex with your partner and zoning out into fantasy, it's like not being there. The best sex I had in my life, was with an empty head, just watching the woman in front of me and enjoying her beauty and her pleasure.
     
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  8. ultrafabber

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    Exactly. One can have real sex but perceive it THROUGH fantasy, it used to happen to me almost all the time. It's quite bizarre really, i was imagining i was having the sex i was really having or imagining having sex with another woman or with a porn star while having sex.

    That exactly what you DON'T want to be doing. That means you are not wired to real sex but to fantasy. I used to do that a lot and it only made things worse.
     
  9. Reborn16

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    Gary Wilson said the main difference between fantasising about porn and watching porn, is one does not use a PC mouse.

    So going by that, you might assume any kind of fantasising would impede the healing process.

    I have also been told by a sexual therapist, that fantasising about what happens to turn us on the most during intimacy can help associate the feeling of arousal with the current situation with your partner.

    I took that with a grain of salt, but for me with my issue of DE this was said to be a temporary method to help connection with a partner. Perhaps it could work similarly with ED?
     
  10. One think I have learned for sure is not take therapists for gods. They sometimes tell rubbish. They should be questioned just as everybody else.
     
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