Is this a Relapse??

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Quaresma, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Jojo_mojo

    Jojo_mojo Fapstronaut

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  2. Quaresma

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    Yes i know what you mean, but i think a orgasm with porn and masturbation is verry diferent with a orgasm with a real life girl. Orgasming with porn and masturbation is verry bad and destroys everything. An orgasm with a girl in real life is healthy and the normal thing..

    What do you think bro?
     
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  3. GripLess

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    Our paths to the cure are not linier. We are all different and we all have our own definition of PMO and our own time frames in mind. What i will suggest is that you be careful so you dont relapse due to uncontrolled urges.
     
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  4. Quaresma

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    Yes you are right, but im not afraid to relapse with porn masturbation and orgasm. I feel healed en dont need any porn or masturbation anymore. Its normal that i have sometimes strong urge, but i can control them now!!!
     
  5. Quaresma

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    You are on a PMO hard Mode for 90 days.
    At the moment you are on 70 days without porn, without masturbation and without orgasm. Then you get know a girl and talk some days.. After that you decide to see eachother.. you have a great time.. at the end you kiss eachother and then you finger the girl and she orgasms and then she give you a blowjob and you also orgasm..

    Is this a relapse?
    I think its not because a orgasm with a real girl is not a orgasm with porn and your own hand.. so i think thats why its not a relapse, beacause you didnt watch porn and start masturbating to a orgasm.. right??
    I feel healed because i dont get the strong urge like in the past to masturbate or watch porn.

    Its normal that i get strong urges, but now i can control them!!!

    Whats your opinion guys? Did i relapse and should i reset?
    Or is this a sign that im healing and its good?

    I thinks its the second one..
     
  6. Hey Quaresma
    First of all, Good job man. 70 days hard mode is a really good accomplishment.

    As for what you asked about I can only give u an opinion, but the truth is how you feel about it yourself. No one knows better than you how you are affected by it.

    I see nofap as a tool to get PM free. And the ultimate goal for me is not to be PMO free for 90/120 days and then start having sex etc. My goal is to be free of PM and kind of erase the affects it has had on me, psychologically, emotionally and physically. So from what I hear is that you have not been affected by PMO by 2,5 months, and now you had an O with a girl you met, and didn't have any issues. Isn't that the ultimate goal here a lot of people? Just saying.

    Depending on how you are affected by it. How you feel with yourself, and if you feel like you are on the right track. Then keep it going. The ultimate goal is to be PMO free and living life. And eventually just coming back to nofap to maybe motivate/advise another fapstronaut.
     
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  7. Quaresma

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    Thanks bro! Thats exactly how i think about it. My goal is indeed having a life without porn->masturbation->orgasm!
    Thanks for you opinion!!!
     
  8. Quaresma

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    You are on a PMO hard Mode for 90 days.
    At the momentyou are on 70 days without porn, without masturbation and without orgasm. Then you get know a girl and talk some days.. After that you decide to see eachother.. you have a great time.. at the end you kiss eachother and then you finger the girl and she orgasms and then she give you a blowjob and you also orgasm..

    Is this a relapse?
    I think its not because a orgasm with a real girl is not a orgasm with porn and your own hand.. so i think thats why its not a relapse, beacause you didnt watch porn and start masturbating to a orgasm.. right??
    I feel healed because i dont get the strong urge like in the past to masturbate or watch porn.

    Its normal that i get strong urges, but now i can control them!!!

    Whats your opinion guys? Did i relapse and should i reset?
    Or is this a sign that im healing and its good?

    I thinks its the second one..
     
  9. GripLess

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    I would just change from no PMO to no PM. Sounds like you had a win to me. Keep it going.
     
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  10. Quaresma

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    Why not PMO? A O with P en M is different by a O with a real girl??
    You know what i mean??
     
  11. Bulgazof

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    Sadly, I believe that for a PMO, which includes any form of orgasm in the name, it is at least a violation. But it all depends on what you were going into this for. Did you intend to avoid sexual interactions when you chose a Porn, Masturbation, and Orgasm ban? If not, I'd say you're fine. Perhaps change the name to a PM normal mode.
     
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  12. Quaresma

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    My goal was and still is not to orgasm anymore with porn and masturbation..
    Im almost at day 90 and still didnt PMO, PORN->Masturbate->Orgasm..
     
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  13. Tonytone

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    I think you're fine, but as @Bulgazof said, it depends on what you're in it for. I have PIED. If my dick worked after 70 days and a chick gave me a bj and I got totally hard, I'd be celebrating like I won the fucking lottery. But, that's just me.
     
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  14. Quaresma

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    Im on nofap because i masturbated to much to porn.. if i saw a girl or something what turns me on i always watched porn and masturbated..
     
  15. GripLess

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    Yes they are different. PMO is just pictures, your hand and you lying to your brain, your brain lying to you. A girl is real. Real in the way your brain was intended to perceive sex. By having an orgasim with a real women you are telling your brain that is how it should be. Most here call it rewire.
     
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  16. Quaresma

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    Thanks bro!
     
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  17. Summer Son

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    It is not a relapse just keep going.
     
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  18. Quaresma

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    Thanks man! Can you explain why its not a relapse in your opinion??
     
  19. ThePeaceful_warrior

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    It depends on what your goal is. If you are trying for 90 days hard mode then yes it is a relapse. If you are trying to not masturbate or watch porn then no it isn't.

    Personally I think connecting like this with a real girl is fantastic for the rebooting process and training your brain to enjoy actual sex and not 2D images on a screen.
     
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  20. Summer Son

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    Because it isn't a dopamine rush this is reality. You didn't watch porn. If you use porn you can say that was a relapse. But I suggest that: you can live more emotional. Not just a bj, if you can more emotional contact this is more good for you. Try to live love with connection.

    I hope I told this correctly. Don't worry about. It is OK.
     
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