Islam is very misunderstood by people in my opinion

I am certainly not the most religious person on NoFap but throwing 0,03$:

This is kinda result of assumption that someones interpretation of Gods will is absolute truth. If such person then meets other persons interpretation and it happens those two noticeably differ then as there can be only one absolutely true interpretation you get a conflict. Some enlighten people are truly humble and don’t mind differences-just do their thing, but there are others-like mentioned princes, terrorists or even huge chunk of historical figures who will literally create hell on earth just to force their one and only interpretation, getting some riches and power in a process. Many in past also dared to use religion itself to win political games and pretty sure that still to some extend takes place.
Unfortunately seems like it will continue to happen until:

1)such ppl stop treating their interpretation as one and only (which is tricky bc probably all religions assume that have monopoly over interpretation of Gods will-so “all others are wrong if mine is 100% right” thing).

2)maintaining peace and unity of men will be above forcing interpretation of Gods will.

Throwing also some unpopular opinion-I don’t think that even if such concept like hell exists there will be even one terrorist/prince evil enough to suffer there-eternal punishment is tricky concept bc human brain cannot fully understand infinity, but just imagine that terrorist in lifetime killed 20 people and made hundreds temporarily suffer-but is that enough to literally give him/her punishment far exceeding billions of years of suffering per each BREATH that person did in lifetime?
That wouldn’t be even close to eternal punishment in hell-as such punishment will be even more (infinitely more) longer.

Wishing all the best!

 

I think there are many passages in the Ahadith and Qur'an that promote violence. First, we have to look at 2:106- "Whenever We abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or one equal to it. Do you not know that Allah is powerful over everything?" This establishes the idea that earlier versus abrogate later versus, so if two versus contradict, the later versus is correct. Now, let us look at one of the last surahs of the Qur'an: Surah 9. 9:29- "Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued."
"It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah." - Sahih Muslim 22
I'm just saying that some Islamic texts promote violence. Islam also says that Allah does not like people who are not Muslims.
"so that Allah may give reward, out of His grace, to those who believed and did righteous deeds. Surely He does not love the unbelievers." - 30:45

 

You can't know darkness without light or vice versa, live in darkness long enough and you will see the light, live in light long enough you will know darkness, and the dance continues forever and ever. Polarity in all things.

 

What does this have to do with Islam?

 

Everything, every religion on earth is interconnected, they all grow from the same tree. if anyone wants to know the reason for one direction a people take they only have to look at theirs.

 

Some religions are born out of a desire to know God, but others are just lies made up by people. The truth is, there can only be one true religion, contrary to what devsMind says. Jesus couldn't have died and not died at the same time. Some people have been deceived. We need to examine each religion to determine which one is true.

 

There is always a root and that root is polarized. things like this get changed and branch off into places unknown, even today there are branches of old ways to live modernized, as it will be forever. So yes there is a first like with everything. What most people argue about when it comes to religion are the nuances, we see it all the time. If contradictory teachings are present then what does that tell you, allegory and symbolism to teach obvious intuitive things.

 

It is a religion that is misunderstood by some people who though mean well do not do the Muslims any favours. For example some left wing councils are loathe to call Christmas Christmas and instead are more comfortable calling it the winter festival, claiming otherwise it would offend Muslims. The fact is Muslims see Christ as s prophet rather than the son of God and therefore have no problem celebrating his birth what so ever. As a result the Muslims are unwittingly put in a bad light by some councils that are trying to show how woke they are.

 

Major religions disagree on many things. What is man's purpose? Is time linear? Is the nature of reality personal? The fact is that world religions are very different on these things.

 

It's good we as humans disagree and form opinion, it's healthy, if we didn't we would not have adapted and evolved many complex modes of thought and action. it's through this combat of mind and body that opens up new paths ways for us to live and explore together even if it means being apart.

 

So you are saying that there's one correct way?

 

I'm saying there is a root to all religions but there is no one right way to live life.

 

Are you saying that there is no right or wrong? If there is no right are wrong, then why are telling me what to do? If you're telling me what to do, then doesn't that mean that you are telling me that I am doing something wrong, and that that is not a right way to live?

 

I'm not telling you to do anything, or how to live, but yes there is no real right or wrong, just what we say it to be, as individual and as a society and as a species, as dictated by order of will. How you choose to live is on you, and my life mine, our choices vibrate and influence each others actions and outcomes. butterfly effect in and of itself is godly, god is everything known and unknown and will never be known. we are of god but we are not god so we can not know god totally.

That's all I have

 

Man you love riddles for sure-I would guess that you are either highly spiritual sort of deist or buddhist.

You little misunderstood my words but fault is on me being too diplomatic.

I am not saying that there can be many/only one true religion - in fact ALL systematized religions must be man made so even if their roots begin somehow from higher abstract entity (highly doubtful) through centuries those were ordinary people who collected, reorganized and added/removed words to “holy books” and traditions to “holy lifestyle”. Do you think that it’s coincidence that you are Christian same as people around you? If your family or even country which you were born was islamic your view would be quite different-same goes for people living in ancient Greece who believed in Zeus and stuff-man this literally is the case for every region in entire history-and all of them believing their religion is true, coincidence?

I don’t mind any religious person believes-as long as that religion is not used for violence and unfortunately I cannot think of religion which has not been used for that, christianity and islam included.

It is also good to see some islamic verses which point to it being not so peaceful, but pretty sure that if you dig a little into bible itself you will also notice things which weren’t very nice and understanding too.

Wishing all Nice Day!

 

I did not share my views on those verses, I merely provided them. You are using a genetic fallacy. Watch this video to learn more.

 

lol nope it's Hermetic

To the other gentlemen
Everything in this video is what I said, no right or wrong way to live, if a person thinks they know the one true way is the ignorant one, life is difficult no one view will help you. In fact, not having a religion might help you more so, which is what the video is saying, we didn't pick these forms of religion, it was cast upon us because they were already here before our birth, if you right now came up with a way to live in your own paradigm and life felt right then that would be correct. religions and paths like this are just a guide to ease suffering in ways, and how to sort of live along side of your fellow humans so we don't destroy each other and ourselves, so we can come together and build an inner and outer life that's worth it in the long run.

The only way to know whats real is the strip away everything that already exists and you would be left stranded with nothing but your body and your mind and the ideas you come up with in order to survive and adapt here on earth. Start from the basics and build outward.

 

Very interesting and thought provoking video indeed, thanks for that!
Still is it coincidence that people in certain country just happen to be in huge percentage followers of certain religion-this "genetic fallacy" seems to assume that we will just ignore those facts and treat them as irrelevant?

Example of "sun goes around the earth" (or pretty much all scientific discoveries) is IMO wrongly interpreted - science is dynamic process which means that it enhances previous state-so in that case going back in time we would probably believe that thunders are made by Zeus wrath or something-but contradiction against current understanding cannot be treated here as fallacy as state itself with time has been further enhanced-as in nature we see egg=>larva=>pupa=>butterfly, each step going backward was necessary for this creature to get into final stage-same is for science

This cannot be applied to statement "Christianity/God is true" - as we would need to assume that those were always true-I am assuming here that religion is not dynamic process which is false bc being man made thing it will be always adjusted/reinterpreted/rewritten, as it has been the case I've mentioned (so comparing briefly to stages it would be something like Mesopotamian religions=>Judaism=>Christianity but as I am not an expert recommending you to dig further into origin details).

About double edge sword-I would agree with that as it is truly the case, being born with opportunity to see more than one religion, having possibility to understand Gods illusion-without those I would probably stay Christian, Muslim or that Zeus follower given time/localization circumstances for sure. Still access to information gives opportunity to see far more than what is said by local community and maybe that is the reason behind growing wave of nonbelievers.

It looks like we've created some very interesting discussion here!

 

I actually basically believed Islam at one point, so I did contemplate all of these religions. The more I learned about Islam and Muhammad though, the more I went against it. I didn't unquestionably accept anything. I'm just asking to look at all the religions and see which one is true. Also, my religion is sort of dynamic in a sense. Things develop over time, but new things do not contradict older things. For example, we could say that red is correct, but then clarify a certain shade of red is correct later.