I just spent nearly the whole day watching youtube videos of James Marshall coaching some students of how to communicate and supposedly "pick up" women. The results were brutal, most of the guys were socially awkward, the majority of the women rejected them and very few were willing to disclose personal information like phone/facebook. Now, without contemplating if pick up is moral-ethical, etc. I personally think it's an industry built on vanity mostly, HOWEVER watching this whole day these thoughts strike me: -We live in a world where men are so socially inept and fearful, they go fight wars, are great engineers, businessmen, and still, there is a fucking market of so-called "coaches" teaching men how to interact with women??? THE FUCK. Why? And I ask "WHY" in a rhetorical way. This was the role of the father and now we see the disintegration of family structure, divorce is 50%+ in most countries in the west and as a whole. Men don't have a role model to show them their specifically masculine traits and assert themselves in the world. You are being fucking schooled by the brainwashing government school for 12 years and you are unable to do a qualified job after 12 FUCKING YEARS? And you are unable to go to a woman and express yourself cuz you've been cucked all your life(very broad statement here, ofc it depends on your upbringing and a million other factors)? So basically become a slave for the debt - either college or mortgage, the two genders are polarized by leftist ideology and general lack of values, the hedonism of the secularist, consumerist state. For what? for what I ask so your life can crumble and the lives of all the people around you can crumble AS WELL? Fuck this world we live in where everyone is trying to screw you, either big institutions or people trying to get ahead on the behalf of others. Is there a way to isolate from the shit completely, while being in a civilized society? I do not know. I really don't even where to start. So what to do fuck women, until you realize it's not gonna make you happy? Marry a woman and have the likelihood of her divorce raping you? Slave away in the corporation that treats you like shit, your whole life on top of that? -Being a virgin in my early twenties I slowly start to realize how much dysfunction has been dealt unto me willingly and unwillingly. It is a truly sad predicament that I'm in, not being able to communicate and bond with the opposite sex. It slowly makes my life more and more pointless. Not because I'm not banging a lot of chicks or having a great girlfriend/wife. But simply not having the prospects and the confidence to even have the possibility to turn that into reality is excruciatingly painful. I too may solemnly categorize myself as an incel, although not the kindest word, but unfortunately true. Or even the virgin from the "chad and virgin" meme. Strictly metaphorical description, but still when you see more and more traits fitting the characteristics of the definition it grows on you more and more, even when you don't want it to be your reality. -To be more on the topic of why it is not normal to be a virgin in your early twenties, I want to point out the following: You have an undeniable sexual predisposition towards women, which naturally inclines you to commit in a sexual act. Now why you don't commit to the act is lack of ability to make the circumstances which lead to the act. which are the circumstances? Any social circle, where you have direct access to a female, or even public place. Then an initial contact has to be made with the woman, with the intent of fraternizing with her, since women and men are not naturally inclined to be friends - they have different interests,way of thinking etc. It's not impossible but there's always lust that's hanging over which turns the relationship in a romantic and sexual one. And this lust, which is tied to procreation and instinct etc. is what drives a man to want to do anything with a woman, excluding other commodities like work, etc. So the question really is - why after having this lust it is not fully realized after the teenage years and even in them. ?Well, if you don't eat you die, if you don't have sex you don't die, but let's say you go crazy with the sexual energy being bottled up and that's aggravating. Now, before in history it was early that a woman and a man in teenage years were forced due to circumstances, marriage was a way of survival and sex came out of it and kids did as well. n a way your biological needs were met in a rather äpproapriate" time. Now everything's fucking delayed, both men and women have to work who is to watch over the children? and not only children are not an asset when they work on the farm but a liability which you have to pay for 18 years and even more. I was gonna be way happy if I had children by now and if my wife stayed at home while I work. But I'm crushed under the system we live in and it's hard to get out of it both economically and emotionally. The lack of ability to attract a woman to have a loyal and strong family relationship is completely demotivating to me. The lack to provide resources even if such a woman ever dares to look at me and accept me, for this family structure demotivates me even more. And it's all one big loop, of anxiety stress and quiet desperation. Just rotting away... existing for the sake of it. In a rut that's almost impossible to get out of. But I have porn, right? When I got my juices squeezed out every day by everything around me I might as well choose the illusion and stay in the matrix. Fap a day keeps the pain away! I wish all the best to you all lovely people and may you find a better solution to the circumstances then I do. It's scary to realize how fucked up you are and how fucked up everything is.