It sucks to be a guy, doesn't it?

Precisely! Why would you ever want to be a woman? This guy for some reason thinks it's because it's easier. Get real guy, just because it's more passive don't make it easier. A woman still has to go through the act of charming and attracting a male just as much as we do. Gender only sets the role you play, in the society. Just get real, ok?

 

Right before and after the epiphany experience I had a few weeks ago, I started to have thoughts like this more and more. "Women have it so much easier. Romance, sex, it's all easier for them. Whatever they want, they can get."
But it soon hit me that this is a very, very dangerous way of thinking that will inevitably lead down a scary path to a vile place full of misogyny.
Things are how they are. Maybe it's easier for girls because they usually aren't expected to initiate an encounter. But a lot about dating and sex sucks for them too.
For example, if you're a guy, have you ever thought about the setting of the few first dates? Made sure they're public places with lots of people? Have you ever told a friend where you're going, just in case, and made sure to check back with them once you safely made it back home from a date?
If you're a guy, I'm almost certain you haven't. If you're a girl, I'm almost certain you have...

 

It does bother me. Believe me or not, knowing that I'm not anyone's reason to smile, knowing that I'll never be someone's happy first though in the morning and last comforting thought at night, knowing that I could just disappear off the face of the earth and nobody would notice or care does bother me immensely. But I can't blame women for that. Only myself.

 

Well, some parts of me I could improve. Not doing that would be my fault. And some parts I can't improve. And that's nobody's fault.

I disagree that nature or evolution has anything to do with this. If you look into the way sexuality and romance and all related stuff is treated in our society, or even more if you look at how it's treated in other societies, you'll quickly notice that it's all a purely cultural product. The very prudent way we look at ACTUAL sexuality (not just shameless showing of tits on afternoon TV) probably has its roots in the Victorian time and culture and isn't inherently natural to humans.

 

You can look at this argument from many different angles. Yes, I thought about how we men have it much harder than women but try to see it from their perspectives. Visual standards are much, much higher for women. Just look at the average guy out there. You won't find that many really good looking guys. Simply because society doesn't force them to be good looking. At least not to the point it is for women. If you succeed in society often depends on your looks as a woman. If a woman is overweight she is made fun of. It's not pleasant for guys either but I've seen so many fat and overweight guys make fun of overweight women without them seeming to realize that they themselves look ugly as fuck. They just don't care because they are not judged for their looks as women are.

I'm not a woman but I'm pretty sure most women have it just like us. They see/meet a guy and find him attractive and hope he askes them out because they are afraid of getting rejected or that they don't act according to their set role in society. Yes women get approached much more but finding a quality man as a woman must be fucking difficult. The types of guys that usually approach women like crazy are not the relationship type of man. They just want sex. Women have to learn to deal with those kinds of men and be able to see which guy is fake and which is not. We men don't have to do this. At least we can be sure that when we are approached by a woman that she is actually interested in us and wants more than sex.

Also we can pee while standing and don't have to deal with periods and giving birth. Being in a man's body sounds a lot easier.

@ Tom Hillson

Why are you so sure no woman thinks of you? There were probably several women throughout your life who thought of and fantasized about you. Can you look at what is going on in their minds? No you can't.

 

Being a guy is a pretty nice thing in this world.

Man, you can lift much more lbs's then girls will ever be able to, you can endure much more and look much better with your muscles then womens will ever look. You can pickup all the girls that you want to and nobody will ever say anything similiar to the things that girls are getting for picking up a lot of guys. If that's not enough, you'll earn more money in some jobs just for being a guy. Well life isn't and won't be equal for everyone. Someone need to wipe the floors and someone needs to be a CEO of a company.

BUT for you being already here is a big advantage. YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE IS SUPERIOR TO OTHER MALES OR WOMENS. Why? Because you experience something that is far more difficult then facing the challenges of normal life. They will never even try to form discipline that is needed in going through this addiction.

And if you just want to be noticed by girls there are only two ways: The first one, which is pretty easy is by simply buying pheromones in online shop. And the second one, which I prefer is by working on yourself. But really, what is an easy way?

BELIEVE ME. EASY WAY IS NOT AN OPTION. WORK ON YOURSELF, SACRIFICE YOUR TIME, DISCIPLINE YOURSELF, PUT YOURSELF INTEREST FIRST AND IT ALL WILL WORK FOR YOU AND THAT'S THE BEST THING YOU CAN GIVE YOUR FUTURE-SELF. YOU'RE A MAN GODDAMN IT, SO START ACTING LIKE ONE!

IF U WANT TO GET ATTENTION FROM GIRLS WORK ON YOURSELF. IF U WANT ATTENTION THEN BECOME SOMEONE WHO DESERVES IT. PERIOD!

 

@Fake Till You Become that scared the life out of me haha

Also, OP, you'll never be happy until you find happiness from within. Not from another person.

 

If that is what you believe, it will be true. However, if you just stop giving a fuck, have the balls to make the first move, or just be happy and confident, you might notice more women paying attention to you. No girl will be with you for as long as you view porn. I was addicted like 10+ years... couple days ago I finally said fuck this shit. You can quit, and trust me life will be SO much better.... If your reality sucks, change it. Get outside, read, meditate, exercise, eat good food, drink water, no booze, no drugs. (Ask yourself right now, would I rather watch porn the rest of my meaningless, bullshit life, or am I going to step up and embrace my masculinity, and hustle?)

 

Dude are you kidding?

Men literally have ruled the earth for thousands of years.
And I get attention from women. Guys are just more sexually progressive then submissive women.

Just be alpha, reboot, and destroy everything in your path and the women will follow you.

 

Men, you are beautiful and you are noticed. Mostly it is societal construct that stops women from showing this in any way that you will notice. We are conditioned from a very young age that overt interest in boys is bad, that we should be passively sexual, and that we are bad if we chase you, that you won't want us.

As for women getting attention easily? Maybe that's true, but like others have said, it's not always attention we are comfortable with.

We are all just people, with both beauty and imperfections on show. Be confident in the beauty that is yours - we like all types.

Sincerely, a woman who has probably checked you out in public and taken you to bed in her mind...

 

i have no idea what to say on this other than that i dont agree.

 

Honest thanks for this.

 

Tom, I'm really sorry you are lonely but hopeful for your future, also. Some women don't take to the conditioning as well as others. I myself reach out much to men I care about. In fact, I am a pest.

Just heal slowly from the inside. It's hard work, and painful, but as you layer your strength and sense of self internally you will find opportunities to have more authentic relationships, both with men and women. And that honesty, authenticity and vulnerability is what makes beauty between individuals.

Reach out to me and others here if it will help. I wish you the best x

 

I'm happy as shit to be a guy. I thank God everyday for letting me win that jackpot.

 

This is so beautiful... The fact that you were willing to step out of that social construct to give a fellow human being such kindness and insight. That is a rare thing, indeed.

There is also the social construct that, as men, we need to be strong and never show vulnerability. You can see this construct at play in earlier posts of this thread of people being complete dicks and showing no empathy whatsoever. I think that this construct breaks some of us down more than others.

It can be hard facing rejection after rejection... Wondering if anyone finds you even remotely desirable. Only to wake up one day at 30 years old and to realize that you've never had a girlfriend and probably will never have one. It's a tough pill to swallow, but I created the situation for myself. Many others have as well.

Does any of this make me feel like I wish that I had not been born a man? No, I have come to accept the life that I was born into. I wouldn't be who I am now without my experiences and I wouldn't have my experiences without being born into this particular life. I do understand the pain that OP speaks of. However, these difficulties that we face do not discount the difficulties that women face either, which are many and just as, if not more so, hard to face.

I think that we can all agree that the human condition, no matter gender or race or creed, can be lonely and it can feel at times like no one understands us or what we are going through. As per usual, empathy and kindness, not brutish stupidity and elitism, seemed to be the answer here. The OP was put at ease by this post and I think that many others were as well, including me.

Thank you, Saskia, it means more than you know.

 

I do agree with you. But, I do admit that women have it easier because of the number of men perusing them.