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Jerking Off Habit Induced By P ***WARNING TRIGGERS

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by StrugglingForFreedom, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. StrugglingForFreedom

    StrugglingForFreedom Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys,

    I'm new here. It's my first ever post.
    I've been reading Nofap forums since two weeks and I really wanted to get answers to this.

    I'm a porn addict since a long time.
    I started with anal, BDSM around 13 (now 22) and at that time, I would see me as the dominant in those clips.

    Then, I switched to genres where I would be submissive : femdom, JOI and worst of all, sissy hypno (since 6 years)

    During this "sissy journey", I had the goal of making me c** by using a dildo (p****** m*******).

    I am fighting against P since a very long time and tried many times to stop this sissy fetish.

    I AM STRAIGHT, I've never felt attracted by men IRL (no romance, no sex etc). I want to quit to be free of shame and anxiety.

    My question is : is it dangerous for me to " jerk off" (no P or visual stimulation) with something up my **** ?

    I do feel this habit is porn induced and I may sound rationalizing a relapse. I'm currently at day 7 of not using porn and had recently 21 and 10 days streaks.

    My last relapse lasted 30 seconds but the shame and self loathing were here for two days.

    Thanks for your help,
     
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  2. fedmom

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    It isn't going to go away from stopping masturbating and you definitely need to stop doing it for real as the mental damage can make you suicidal if you cure masochism after. PM me for a link on how to get rid of this fetish.
     
  3. It is not dangerous to jerk off if you have something in you a**, as long as it is made to go into your a**. Like a butt plug...

    You said you dont jerk off to P or visuals (which I would call P too). However you are likely to jerk off to F (Fantasy) which I consider to be the root cause of porn addiction. If you want to cure your porn addiction, you must cure your addiction to fantasy too.
     
  4. StrugglingForFreedom

    StrugglingForFreedom Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your answer

    I have difficulties to pleasure myself without habing those weird fantasies.

    How can I recover from fantasy addiction ?

    I started to browse a lot about P dangers and its effects but I still daydream about what porn put in my mind.

    I usually try to comtemplate the feelings, letting them come and watching them from an outside, more "long-term" point of view.

    I'm ok rn, did not relapse and tried to not entertain those thoughts.
     
  5. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    Hello friend. I had a very difficult journey with sissy porn (sP) and similar fetishes. It gave me extreme PIED, shame, and confusion. While I am not 100% recovered, I am not confused about my gender identity or sexuality (I am a straight, cis, male), I have frequent and pleasurable sex with women (when not locked in quarantine lol), and I have overcome the shame of my addiction. You also have this addiction, and you can overcome all your problems as well.

    In short, it is very harmful for your recovery to PMO with anal stimulation, even in the absence of other stimulating media.

    Right now, there is a web of neurons in your brain's sexual reward centers. While they used to be wired towards, people, skin, courting, socializing, and other normal sexual stimuli, these neurons are wired toward screens, sissy fantasies, anal stimulation, and a host of other stimuli. Even worse, extremely large amounts and upsetting porn has also been wired into your brain, as well as shame, anxiety, and guilt.

    While you may be avoiding the porn aspect, continuing to PMO with anal stimulation will not help you recover; PMOing at all will not help you recover. Any sexual stimulation you feel will "refresh" the neurons in your sexual reward center, even if they are not directly activated. While individuals who go on a very strict reboot often find major urges to leave them after 90-100 days, individuals who continue masturbating without porn report years going by to experience the same effects. With the extra stimulation in your anal area, I would guess it would take even longer for you to recover.
     
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  6. StrugglingForFreedom

    StrugglingForFreedom Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for your answer,

    I'm glad I did not get PIED or whatever from my porn use but I'm afraid of what could happen in the future.

    I also fear for my mental health.

    I can't (for the moment) go hardmode because when I abstain for 3 or 4 days I have terrible urges to jump back on sP.

    My current plan is to fap 2-3 times a week without any external stimulation. Then, I will aim for once a week.
     
  7. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    Continuing to watch porn is not going to help this problem. While it seems impossible, you can go cold turkey and succeed. The first 1-2 weeks are hard, I give you that. On days 9-10 I was literally hallucinating. I ran about 9 miles those days just to exhaust myself, and barely slept due to the hallucinations.

    Something that I did, which I recommend solely on my own experiences, is do get some lube or lotion, and MO as many times as you can in one day to sexually exhaust yourself, and then go hardmode. It really helps alleviate urges for the first several days.

    Giving yourself leeway to PMO does not help in the long run. Your brain will recognize what you're doing, and try to trick you to PMOing just one extra time. Once extra becomes twice, then thrice, and then using toys, etc. The best thing to do is go hardmode. Even if you fail at hardmode, it's better than continuing to PMO.

    If you're fearing for your mental health, you should talk to a professional irl about that.
     
  8. Isn't that the million dollar question??
    I can go into fantasy when I'm trying to go to sleep. And, any time at all when I'm not actively engaged with other people. And, as an introvert, I tend to have lots and lots of time for thinking. Why would I think about the meaning of life or what I could have for dinner that night when I can turn to fantasy and get a rush of arousal?
    I've struggled with this for years but things that have helped me the most are:
    #1 - engaging with real people. Not sexually, just being active in recovery meetings or talking with friends and family. Asking people how they're day is going.
    #2 and beyond - no porn, no masturbation, no edging, little or no caffeine and little or no sugar. All of these things feed back into fantasy and the temptation to get high (and escape) with sexual stimuli.
    Further, avoid orgasms. Orgasms will only set your body up to crave more orgasms. Read "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow" for a detailed explanation of how destructive orgasm are. Or, just ask anyone here about the "chaser effect"
    And lastly, if you catch yourself in fantasy. Stop it! You can stop. Try to think of something else. Chances are nothing you think of will be nearly as gratifying, but you can think of other things. Little by little, you will slip into fantasy less.
     
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  9. StrugglingForFreedom

    StrugglingForFreedom Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your answer

    Just to be sure you understood at what stage I am : I already stopped P.

    Over the last month I relapsed once for 30 seconds (I almost jizzed instantly when I looked at the video)

    Thanks for the piece of advice about purging once and then to hardmode, I'm seriously considering this path.

    I love sports since childhood and I never stopped to train, it always helped me a lot facing life.

    I already workout for two hours a day, I get what your point about on physical exhaustion to avoid urges.

    I also see a psychiatrist IRL to take care of my depression and anxiety. I suspect those troubles to be porn-related.

    I have to say guys it's the first time I talk to people about my porn addiction since I'm very ashamed by my fetish (sP) and my sexuality in general.

    Thank you for your support
     
  10. StrugglingForFreedom

    StrugglingForFreedom Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your answer

    I would also define myself as an introvert (or daydreamer if I allow myself to be poetric lol).
    By chance I'm with my whole family during those hard coronavirus days thus I'm not isolated.

    During all those sp / P years dieting has been an issue. I tried many times but I've never been successful in cutting down.

    I feel I can compound my goals in this recovery journey and really improve my self esteem (very low since I discovered sP).
     
  11. fedmom

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    That's going to cause mental damage if you cure masochism after. If this is a fetish you have please send me a pm.
     

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