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JOIN THE 90 DAY REBOOT PROGRAM HERE!! (CHECKED DAILY AND HOSTED BY Real_OGH)

Discussion in 'Events & Challenges' started by Real_OGH, Sep 18, 2015.

when does everyone want to start the reboot?

  1. 21th September

  2. 1th October

  3. ASAP

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  1. PsyMon

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    I am almost done: no M to O for 90 days. Just have to hold out for two more days.

    Although my reboot was initially for P as well as MO, I failed with P around halfway through the reboot because of a number of factors, and I edged often (although not with P). So don't look at me as an example. It's not much to brag about.

    I might start with a fresh reboot in the near future, then I will do better, and I need to because I am nowhere near kicking this addiction.
     
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  2. Jodokus

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    I had some free days, left town, saw my woman and it broke my neck. Cuddle time, sex, watching movies, eating good and a little unhealthy - that was all ok, but I lost track completely: no morning exercise, no studying and I did PMO on two days (when she was at her lectures).

    Sorry guys, for letting you down :oops:
    But I'm back the life changing machine and I will be better this time.
    I have to try harder when I'm not at my familiar surrounding (especially at a place where I used to pmo a lot of times).
    Overmore I have a bit of a problem, bc my girlfriend hasn't the sex-appeal to me I wish for (which made me look at subs, then porn)

    No, one is different to the other.

    Good! After 90 days without MO but still watching P, you could switch now: 90 days without P but MO is allowed.
    Wouldn't that be an even greater success?
     
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  3. Jodokus

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    I made a consideration: my reasons for porn VS my reasons against porn. I think it is worth sharing it with you. But I will just give you my 6 reasons for, not my 12 reasons against it, for I am curious, what you think about it.
    Do you have similiar (pseudo) reasons for watching porn? And how do you defeat them? Or are you still undecided?


    REASONS FOR PORN

    1) It makes me feel like a omnipotent man in a world of endless beauty and lust
    2) It gives me a strong high (until the O)
    3) As a consequence from 1) and 2) it can help me cope with sexual frustration and helps releasing stress in general
    4) It is morally "ok" to watch porn, a majority of men do it, it is just one form of many forms of distraction
    5) It complements my sexuality. Women also look porn, thus I can learn from porn. Porn handled right is an enrichment.
    6) If used occasionally and considerate, the drawbacks of porn-use are minimized
     
  4. Moogie

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    Why 90 days?
     
  5. nofapper94

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    Well, if you take a gander at my counter, it appears I need to be here.
     
  6. Chief32

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    2 days in 88 to go
     
  7. atreiu

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    Hey there, just stepping by cause thanks to this post I've reached my highest streak ever :)

    Gotta hold on for just another week and it will be a wonderful goal (then I'll raise it of course!)

    Stay strong guys! ;)
     
  8. proxerproxer

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    I started and this time i'm serious.
     
  9. proxerproxer

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    I thought of splitting targets so i feel easy to achieve my goal. Im gonna increase it in exponential way.So one down next two days target.
    While i forgot to mention this im in hard mode.
     
  10. Jodokus

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    Everything arouses me... bad emotions, good emotions..

    its happening in my lower stomach. Erections and De-erections are going on below. Pressure on my chest when the waves are high and my body becomes shaky. But the base is in my lower stomach. No surprise, it's an energy-place, called 'hara' in japanese.

    By breathing I wash it out. It feels as if the heat from 'hara' would heaten the air that goes in and out through my body.
     
  11. Come on, dude, it's time to buckle down now. Do you need help? I've seen your ups and downs man. Lets make better progress as we go into this new year. We've both been here long enough to know how things go. What can I help you with?
     
  12. Divine

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    Too late to sign in? No, okay!
     
  13. Divine

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    Come on man, don't make any excuses. The drawbacks of porn-use can be minimized (but not enough to make a difference) and don't fucking underestimate what it can do to you. Have you heard that the brain changes shape right after someone orgasm to porn?

    You will just be a useless, shy, apathetic, depressed psychopath. But, hey if that's route you want to go? By all means, go ahead. I don't have control of you, and I frankly wouldn't care.

    But if you still do want to continue to heal yourself? Then I will help you on your journey. Please contact me either through PM or on here.
     
  14. Jodokus

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    @AlltheRageBackHome @Divine

    Sorry to make you guys worry!
    Let me explain: I've made two lists: my personal reasons pro and contra porn. I just posted the first (pro) list here, cause I wanted to see what kind of contra-reasons others would find. But why would I look for pro-porn reasons in the first place? It's because when I was relapsing I didn't just give in to the urges but rather I had so many excuses which allowed me to watch porn again and again.
    Nearly every time I relapse I do many writing in this forum. Even if my vows of nofap are later departed, it surely helps me a great deal to get on the path again and see new things. And of course the response from my friends here is crucial for that. So this time I decided to put all my excuses on the table. They are indeed arguments (for myself) to watch porn. I knew beforehand that these arguments are all fowl and beaten by my higher moral decisions. But I wanted to work that out show it to myself.
    And it's more than that: when I began with NoFap Internet-Porn was a torment to me. I spent hours searching and when I finally came to O, I still wasn't satisfied at least not mentally.
    Unfortunately after several months of nofap porn became exciting to me again and I could enjoy it for the moment (of course afterwards comes remorse). I referred to that experience when I said that "the drawbacks of porn-use are minimized".

    Maybe it was wrong to post that pro reasons, I don't know. Anyway I think you will understand now how I feel and let me tell you as well that I'm fine at the moment, being in good spirits, no urges and I'm working on my daily "perfomance".

    I will now post my REASONS FOR QUITTING PORN
    It's a bit lengthy so I'll put them in a spoiler ---
    1) It creates an illusion that causes several problems:
    - unrealistic expectations in real life encounters with women
    - creation of an alter ego that stands for macho behaviour, for untamed and primitive sexuality and for domination and degradation (or even sadism) of the sexual partners. This alter ego isn't compatible with myself nor is it exceptable for my friends and colleagues, so it has to hide himself. Porn and its "substrate" strengthen this "Mr. Hyde", which could be damaging to my personality and relationships.
    - problems to understand / communicate with women
    - depression

    2) In the "high" I loose myself, afterwards I crush on the ground. The satisfaction through porn is costy: I forget the time and what is around me. Thus porn makes me procrastinate AND leaves me frustrated.

    3) Porn is not only a waste of time but also of sexual energy. Thus porn is a love and sex killer (in many ways).

    4) The satisfaction through porn is difficult. "The search" is basically a search for something that doesn't exist. The more porn I find, the more arousal I get, the more growing my greed for something even better. In times when I pmo'ed very often, it satisfied me the less.

    5) Porn is controversial. But whatever the opinions people might have, I KNOW that porn production is full of shit. Even if there might be some companies and individuals that handle it in a way I can tolerate.
    And in general whatever the moral judgments - porn is just filming people fucking. Nothing more! They will continue doing it. It will continue to generate money. People will be looking at it, will be addicted to it.
    The question is: DO YOU WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM?
    My answer: no.

    6) A little porn isn't working for me. Not even a little look at mary's booty humpy-dumpy. I'm a fuckin addict. I go just on and on. I can't afford to loose control. Addicted or not - when you get back in control you will be one of the toughest motherfuckers out there.

    7) The best reasons against porn doesn't come from reasoning but from experience. I just know that porn impaired my life. I'm doing nofap since summer and I don't want to waste my progress. And I know from experience that I don't need porn:
    When I'm on a long streak I and urges are absent I don't feel like anything's missing. I feel great.

    8) Addiction is clearly another big reason against it. Alone the very fact that I can't just let go, although it causes me so much pain, is enough to hate it. And the way it sticks to me, pretending to be me, is horrifying and sickening.

    9) NoFap is not "LessFap". When it helps me to get better in life and to reduce my fapping this is not for a better enjoyment of pmo! It doesn't work that way. Having less negative effects from porn after a long period of abstinence shows the improvement that you achieved through nofap ! (Of course occasional porn-use isn't damaging you the way frequent porn-use does). But rebooting means to make the times of abstinence longer and longer. It means to dry out the images, the words, the arousal, the triggers.

    10) The argument of experience and enrichment through porn doesn't work for me at all. First because of all the pain it inflicts me, secondly bc I have seen so much porn already that there is nothing new for me to learn. In contrast to real life experience. And even the worse RL sex experience will teach me more than any pornsite.

    11) I know that my brain is fucking with me. Every time I watch porn I bring hundreds of new pictures into my mind. And I strengthen certain neuronal paths. I know every lustful thought is just a urge. I know every reason for watching porn is an invalid reason, a trick of mind, only urges. I know that, nevertheless how I urge to get involved with porn, my very own will is NOT TO get involved.

    12) I have a vision for myself. It is still vague and I have to elaborate it and fill it with life. But anyhow, in this picture of my future-me porn is an obstacle which I have OVERCOME. It is like a toy I used to play with which lost any value to me eventually.
     
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  15. wizard

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    Ok, im back!!! 5 days omg :O
    I feel some progress at last. Been in a vicious cycle for a couple of months.

    Nice summary there @Jodokus!!

    you can do this! we all can :D

    Feel the power! (well. . . the magic anyway)
     
  16. proxerproxer

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    My viragya has gone down .Just now i relapsed.
     
  17. wizard

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    Arghh I struggle so much too relax. It's so hard to fall asleep!!!

    I can't continue relying on masturbation to ease stress and relax at the end of the day. It's as though my body has forgotten how to do these basic things!!
     
  18. Jodokus

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    Calm down wizard, your body will learn. And you will be rewarded for the struggle. Meanwhile find new ways to relax: meditation, reading, watching movies, listening to music, sewing... whatever it does for you, as long as it doesn't entails triggers.
    This works good for me: listening to sounds of the woods / the beach (waves and seagulls) or singing bowls.

    In the reboot process every day is different. Some just pass lightly others weigh like a thousand tons.
     
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  19. When you do semen retention, your body retains it's natural vital energy, and you need to be doing things within the day that releases that sexual energy, like working out, using the gym etc... So, if you can't sleep, it's sometimes because you still have too much energy to expel that you didn't release within the day.
     
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  20. Jodokus

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    Report from a bumpy day

    I'm half pissed, half proud.
    To get it of my chest, I watched serials and spend much time on NoFap instead of work and I should have gone to sleep two hours ago. Better stop the negative thinking now.
    I'm proud cause I managed to abstain.
    I fantasized and touched my dick. That's what produced urges. When I was watching my serials it hit me hard. I had to breathe - many waves, deep breathes, pressure, but I didn't watch anything, I made a plan, I went outside. Then I learned a bit, but I couldn't focus.
    At the end I nearly slipped. Suddenly I "wanted" to watch P-subs. Slow internet saved my ass. I came to NoFap. Tried to help other people out. Now I go to bed.

    Good night to everyone who struggles! Get new powers and new ideas for the next day
     

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