Karezza is the monk mode of semen retention

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by icebreaker polarstern, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. I was wondering, what is the difference of these different approaches of ultimate abstinence? Sure, for most guys orgasm and ejaculation always come together. But, as we know, it's possible to learn to have only orgasm without the ejaculation. For someone who practices semen retention as a lifestyle (as distinguished from the hard mode reboot which is practiced for a limited period of time to reboot an addicted brain), for someone who says 'semen is life force and when I lose semen I lose life force', the ability to reach an orgasm without ejaculating can make a big difference for his sex life IMHO.

    Now karezza say this: the male ejaculation isn't the problem. It's the orgasm who drains you out of your energy, destroys your mood, your spirit and harms every intimate relationship. (Correct me, if I'm wrong).
    So what works for a male semen retentior - O without E - wouldn't be allowed in "karezza mode".

    For every guy who hasn't yet found the Challenge hard enough for him: karezza is the monk mode of semen retention. ;)
     
  2. Alex King

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    I think it is the other way around. Orgasm is allowed, but ejaculation is not.
    You control ejaculation, but expereince orgasm. Even multiple orgasms.
     
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  3. Grey is colourless

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    You still burn jing/ojas every moment you are aroused and karezza exposes you to nudity which sticks in your subconsciouss...or rather it calls stuff from inside it that you may be trying to run away from. Honestly, if you ever had a porn addiction or any kind of lack of control over sexuality why do you think you can resist Karezza like you are immune to it, haha!

    Yes males can have non ejaculatory as well as whole body multiple orgasms like females. It takes control. Something abouth healthy strong muscles and perfectly controlled down there, knowing how to use them liike when to tense when to relax which parts, knowing how to use the body like how to use light smooth touch and breath to arouse energy in other parts of the body. There's lots of books/pdfs I've seen about the topic over they years. Haven't really read any of them though, merely skimmed. I know a friend/person or two who says they can separate orgasm from ejaculation...as in control it.
     
  4. Jake n Bake

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    I have learned multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms and they are a great blessing in my marriage. It took a lot of time and effort to finally get here.
     
  5. Ajar

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    I think I've had that experience of orgasm without ejac. It lasts forever though, and you can get really deep into it. I feel like I did get to understand a part of me that I didnt know existed before. But I noticed, either way I would experience those heightened state because if you just keep up with seminal retention, the energy reaches the orgasmic state naturally. Like when I was doing Karezza, even peeing became an orgasm, I'm not talking about just feeling good, I'm talking like full out weak in the knees good. But I've experienced states like that from my first few streaks without karezza. I think it just takes some time. Also Karezza developes alot of heat in the body, I dont think thats really good. especially for hairloss...but hey if you wnt to experience something a little beyond yourself, it might be worth trying, because I understand that it's definitely there. Just how to achieve it...
     
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    [QUOTE = "Jake n Bake, post: 2313268, membro: 324585"] Ho imparato più orgasmi non eiaculatori e sono una grande benedizione nel mio matrimonio. Ci sono voluti un sacco di tempo e fatica per arrivare finalmente qui. [/ PREVENTIVO]
    how did you do?
     
  7. Bradford0418

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    I'd like to know what materials you studied to learn this way? I am just starting into this and find great energy and passion and would like to make it more permanent in our lives.
     
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  8. ctrl urself

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    It’s next level shit. I got laid a few days ago (day 29 for me) and didn’t ejaculate. I switched to mostly tantric techniques with little friction, which helped me... and her lol it’s not something I want to do again in a hurry as it took extreme levels of will and self control.
     
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  9. Bradford0418

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    That’s amazing that you have come that far! I’ve experienced it more by accident last week and started finding books on the methods to read. I also enrolled in a tantric meditation class on essentially E mastery and see benefits of the control. Thanks for letting me know your experience and I’d like to hear more of your strength.
     
  10. ctrl urself

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    I’m happy to share my experience so far. It’s a bit hard to put my finger on one thing... but I’ll try.

    I believe we are all born tantric. PMO pretty much destroys the natural impulse towards this as a teenager... always in a rush with one goal. I ended up with bad PE with my first gf (who became my wife) so I started searching and came across the tantric world. Over the course of 10 years with her (in fits and starts) I became quite tantric, easily lasting over an hour.

    then just over time after that ended and I met new people it went up and down... till my last partner where it just clicked. I think mostly because I truly loved her.. but I’d last over 6 hours with no chemical enhancement and no orgasm... well tantric openings but no ejaculation.

    when that ended I hired a tantra coach which was another level entirely and I experienced my first “spiritual orgasm” no ejaculation but an absolute explosion of full body energy, expansion and opening. It’s beyond words.

    I dated a woman last year and unleashed some potential, but I haven’t really had a partner to practice with. So I masterbated (edged for 6-8 hours at a time).

    it’s been push pull for me - tantra/excessively cumming and I’ve never felt balance like I have now on day 30. It was risky having sex a few days ago, as retention is my goal, but I feel it’s a small victory that I didn’t cum... I also couldn’t go for it with abandon either.

    when it comes to tantra, it’s all about energy. That’s primary. The physical always follows energy. Which paradoxically (as all deep things) is modulated by breath. It’s a little bit chicken and egg, but as you deepen you’ll find its energy first, then physical. I’m happy to answer questions bro
     
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  11. Nicko Stretch

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    Karezza is nothing to do with orgasm or ejaculation. It is about bonding with a partner not how to get pleasure. It is about learning the subtle pleasures of love making without chasing any extreme feelings. Read Cupids Poison Arrow for an explaination.
     
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