LGBT Censorship

Discussion in 'NoFap Technical Support and Feedback' started by Optimum Fortitude, Oct 16, 2019.

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  1. Vendettana

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    OK, if I am stupid, as you say, then feel free to bang your head against some concrete my friend. As you are superior, maybe you can answer a question I have for years now: Why do guys like you always start insulting people, when they don't agree? What is it?

    I did not say, NoFap is like Nazis because they deleted a thread.
    I said: Nazis did censorship and burned books. I said LGBTs push so that books get censored and threads get deleted. What is wrong about this statement, my superior friend?
     
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  2. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    Please check you inbox.

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  3. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    Please note that reposting something that has been removed by the moderation team is considered a violation of the forum rules.
     
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  4. NothingMoreNothingLess

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    While you're at it @sparkywantsnoPMO can you send me a PM please of what I typed that broke the guidelines? I never got an explanation besides "misogynistic tone" which seemed to be pulled out of someone's butt, don't know whose butt though.
     
  5. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    According to records, you were given an answer, and an appeal was completed on 03 October 19 in accordance with the forum rules.
     
  6. NothingMoreNothingLess

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    You told me it was a misogynistic tone, yet you weren't citing any examples. I'd argue it was more against males if anything. Also, what about the threads that publicly shamed me? Why didn't they receive any consequences, yet it is against the rules?

    "Please treat other NoFap users with respect. Avoid name calling, insults, and degrading comments.Do not personally attack other users. While everyone is welcome to express their opinion on the forum, please do so constructively. If you do not agree with something that someone has said, you are welcome to question it or challenge it. However blatant attacks on other users because of differing opinions or morals will not be tolerated. This includes spreading your opinions of a particular user publicly on the forum, and/or using the forums to incite negative opinion against a particular user in hopes the moderation team will ban them. Questioning the morals or postings of another user is equivalent to publicly shaming them and will be subject to moderation action or warning. If you have concerns about a particular user, please contact a moderator privately through the Private Messaging (PM) system and/or report the user’s posts with the report button."

    I even gave you a link to one said thread, yet you guys didn't do anything.

    edit: I didn't make an appeal, I simply asked you via. messages. I made an appeal with Survivalist though. I can personally ask Alex though.
     
  7. sparkywantsnoPMO

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  8. NothingMoreNothingLess

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    I'm just going to say Sparky, thanks for sending me a message. One of the few moderators that has responded to me to be honest. But bull shit reasons, with all due respect, as I checked the rule book and I did not break any rules at all. I still didn't get any proof or examples of how I was being hateful to women. I really want some proof, to prove me wrong.
     
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  9. Sawako Kuronuma

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    I clearly see a difference between censorship and forum moderation, if the owner of a private website doesn’t want something inflammatory or potentially alienating posted that’s up to them to decide if it stays or goes.

    I’ve had lots deleted for various reasons but I’m not bitching on a public forum about it, some I deserved while others I didn’t but that’s life but you don’t see me throwing tantrums.
     
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  10. Vendettana

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    Sure this is what the leftists always say: When a guy like Paul Joseph Watson is on youtube they cry out that this was a public place and that he had to be banned.
    On the other side, when some conservative get his account blocked for real, they say that google or facebook is a private company and that they can do whatever they want.
     
  11. Sawako Kuronuma

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    I’m not a leftist but I do know right wing seems to cry an awful lot. o_O
     
  12. Vendettana

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    As you did not retort on my argument, I assume that you agree.
     
  13. Sawako Kuronuma

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    I don’t know anything of that and while the far left can go too far in ways, the right isn’t much better. I don’t like either, but whenever a right winger can’t say something they shouldn’t it’s always freedom of speech that gets thrown around.
     
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  14. Augie

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    Actually any banning is done because Google, YouTube, Facebook are private companies who’s business is impacted by public opinion. They have the right and should always have the right to block/ban/or hide any content they desire. Most people do not understand that free speech almost always only applies to public forums (street corners, public property areas) and even then it’s restricted to a certain degree.

    I don’t like censorship but I also don’t like people telling companies and owners of businesses what they can and cannot do with their own money and business.

    If the thread was deleted because they did not feel it kept in line with NoFaps mission statement then that’s how life goes. You can now make the decision to either stay or go.
     
  15. SparkySub

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    I mean that is true, companies can effectively do what they like, despite it being wrong in my opinion, they can delete what they wish to.
     
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    Hi, the reason was given to you when your thread was removed. We felt that the thread made LGBTQ folks on the forum feel unwelcome and thus was not conducive to maintaining the kind of welcoming community we are seeking to create here. Remember, this forum is primarily a space for people to come and heal from their addictions with the help of their peers. Anything that doesn't help in creating that space will be subject to moderator action per our discretion:

    As quoted above, we are not required to provide an explanation for why we considered your post a violation of the rules. However, we have been discussing your appeal and will be in contact with you in regards to it shortly.
     
  17. Augie

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    If you owned your own company, wouldn’t you like to have the right to do what you want with it according to your values? I think you would say yes, so we should afford others the same right even though they don’t share the same values.
     
  18. Vendettana

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    Sure they can. Youtube can block and shadow ban. They just have go be honest and write in their policy that they are intolerant to conservative viewpoints and they only accept pro LGBT, social justice, democrats, pro choice, Fridays For Future, Extinction Rebellion and posts about makeup.
    Instead they do virtue signaling about how open and inclusive they are, yet they are the opposite. People get blocked because of "hate speech" which is so badly defined, that literally anything can fit. T
     
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  19. SparkySub

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    Well of course. If I had a social media platform I would encourage freedom of speech, however I do believe some things go beyond that and are extremist views. Instagram just deletes any right wing content. I don't like this as the left pushed for this, and any comment whether its offensive or not is removed now. However it is Instagram's choice. I would probably do something fairly similar and remove things I believe are against the companies values. Your point is spot on.
     
  20. Some guys created the term "clown world" for this development and that world will go fully insane (mental ward tier insane), before enough people snap out of it and push back.

    Either way NoFap is going away at some point. It might already happen when physical heterosexuality is going to get outlawed and everything expect masturbating to porn becomes actually illegal and is persecuted as rape. Or when the pendulum swings back before, but so far, that a "secular", "sex-positive" site promoting fornication has to go as well.

    Either way, with Christ I'm on the right side of history. And no, I won't defend "liberal" values. It's their own fault.
     
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