Masturbation can be very healthy this is how

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by modern milarepa, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. Bon-Bon XO

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    "Oh, but fapping is a relapse!" I heard of a YouTuber who had a NoFap streak of over 800 Days, and he fapped once, and he said "my streak has ended". He didn't even watch porn!
     
  2. Bon-Bon XO

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    That first part was sarcastic! Just sayin'.
     
  3. Melkhiresa

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    it IS called nofap not not using porn, it would be interesting to see some studies on the brain activity of people simply watching porn and people fapping i am sure there is something like that out there but i am lazy as **** these days.
     
  4. Retentionman

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    I'm interested in this micricosmic orbit, but that's some advanced yogi shit. How could I do it without the fapping part
     
  5. {Ananta}

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    i decided edging is not for me, my energy is to drained leaving me i feel horrible
     
  6. Bon-Bon XO

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    Dude, congrats on Day 300! You should be very proud of yourself! Awesome man!
     
  7. runksoneck

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    Thanks, man! Definitely was the biggest transformation in my life until now. I will make a post in my journal about I have learned so far.

    Keep strong
     
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  8. ermia

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    Many years ago I was on a spiritual group. admin of that group suggested your way and he Insisted on that it massage must be without any think and Sexual fantasies and do not think about woman's body.
    BUT this is impossible,WHY?

    Because a man's healthy brain is programmed to produce offspring and ejaculate in a woman(or orgasm with women, and even if he is not addicted to porn, this is the default in the minds of all men in the world.I do not think anyone can completely change this default and masturbate for the sake of masturbation.
    I think this way is not possible 100%.
     
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  9. Josh909392

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    Dont do this next time, man. You're gonna make a whole lot of people fall. The main reason many of us are here is to rise above this habit, not fall into it.
    There's no toying with evil, it'll consume you, that's exactly what masturbation does. Pls, don't do this again
     
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  10. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    He’s a fool.
     
  11. Bon-Bon XO

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    Yeah, leave people to their strategy. If they want to keep masturbation but quit porn, even if it's temporarily, that's ok.
    Also, a week no PMO, good job. Just curious, how long have you been trying to quit? 3 years for me (porn).
     
  12. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    This isn’t about what people want to do, it’s about someone who claims they’ve only done this thing twice in their life, and then recommending it to people like their some kind of guru. Meanwhile, giving advice to masturbate on a forum called “nofap.” I will say it again, he’s a fool.

    I have already quit porn long ago, because porn never has and never will be the root of the problem. Nobody watches porn without masturbating.
     
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  13. Bon-Bon XO

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    That's true, but, I do believe porn is the number 1 problem, BUT, especially if you have a sexual partner, No PMO can usually be the way to go.
     
  14. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    Porn is absolutely not the #1 problem. You best get that out of your head if you want real success on this journey. Maybe you aren’t old enough to know that a lot of us masturbated using our imagination alone before everybody had a mini computer in their hand. You can take away porn and still find a way to masturbate. If you take away masturbation, then the desire to watch porn dwindles, and even if you do watch porn it won’t be harmful UNLESS it leads you to m again.
     
  15. black_coyote

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    If you are a deeply mired addict in this PMO crap, who constantly relapse to p, p-subs and your hands go on to your dick to stimulate yourself (edging with or w/o P) without even your conscious control, I'd like to share some insights from my own experience.

    1. The title of this thread, is really really misleading- sort of like a clickbait. The advice mentioned here would not work for addicts like us. At least, complete your reboot of 90 days to experiment with stuffs like this. If you are looking to end this addiction, stay away from indulging in P, M and O...Period. if you are like me, some edgings to morning woods are inevitable..it happens sometimes, but always make sure not to indulge further. worse, don't make a tantric justification for indulgence. It can be a trap. In my experience, edging has led me to increase cravings while not beating the dick and instead getting cold shower and doing my shit, has kept urges at bay..

    Masturbation, for PMO addicts is not healthy, from a rebooting perspective. The very process of edging re-ignites your dopamine circuitry.


    2. If you are into Taoism, please know this- in the ancient texts, the best and most effective way to regain sexual vigor and virility, according to the Manual of White Tigress, whence the microcosmic meditation finds mention, is the "virgin boy training". Basically, it means to avoid all form of sexual stimulation for 100 days.

    After 100 days, you can play with microcosmic meditation or stuffs like that, but for you to de-addict yourself, stay yourself clean from PMO for at least 100 days.


    3. If you buy into the suggestion that control of sexual impulses is hard, you lost the battle without even taking the first step. Be aware of your power of mind. What you repeat inside you becomes your reality. So if you keep affirming that you cannot own your sex impulse, you will end up becoming a slave to it. Believe that you can study this impulse and gain understanding over it, and it will be so. Be authentic without being a victim. You can own your urges and dismiss it at your will. It is possible.

    Masturbation, as a way of "appeasing" impulse, is ridiculous. In reality, if you are an addict, M will only keep you in the loop however self-justification you may make. The author of the post himself does not practice this thing.

    So before your addict self convinces you to experiment this crap and rationalize this shit, wake up. Don't walk to trap. Do what it takes to stay off from Porn and Masturbation first. It is not that you are giving up something pleasurable by quitting PMO. It is infact, the dropping down of what is poisonous which appears to be pleasurable.

    Conclusion: If you are PMO addicted, Masturbation can not be "very" healthy.

    Stay strong!
     
  16. Bon-Bon XO

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    I live with my girlfriend now, so I don't masturbate anymore. Also, speak for yourself, please. I fapped well before I found porn, and I ONLY experienced negative changes once I found porn!
    Speak for yourself, please. I had the longest streak of my life, and I only stopped fapping recently. Porn was ALWAYS my #1 issue. I've been masturbating since I was 4, and it ONLY started causing me problems when I started doing it with porn. For example; When I was 9, I was a straight a student, I masturbated. I found porn that year, and my grades had been dropping ever since. (I graduated now). with al due respect, please speak for yourself. Porn is MY #1 issue, maybe not yours.
     
  17. Bon-Bon XO

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    Also, I'm 19 years old, I'm old enough, plus, I was addicted to porn for literally half my life, It took me 3 years to quit!
     
  18. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    Then you didn’t have the longest streak of your life. What exactly did you masturbate to during this “longest streak of your life?” A blank wall? You did nothing for your masturbation addiction, and now you have a girlfriend so you’ve replaced sexual stimulation from your hand with sexual stimulation from a vagina. Good job.. you haven’t changed anything. You’re a sex addict.
     
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  19. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    @StarRider take it from here
     
  20. Bon-Bon XO

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    I know what sex addiction is, I can actually go days or up to a week or more without sex. quitting porn was the best thing I ever did, and I stopped fapping, too. Plus, sex is one of the best ways to rewire the brain away from porn, do your research.
     

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