Masturbation can make you less attractive.

[zuisi123]

Masturbation can lead to skin problems. It causes hormonal imbalances, resulting in severe oily skin, frequent breakouts of acne and pimples that are stubborn and may not clear up for years or even decades because the habit of masturbation continues. Medical treatment and medication cannot cure the problem fundamentally because the habit of losing vital energy through masturbation persists. Pores also tend to become enlarged. Before developing, the skin was particularly fresh, oil-free, and delicate. After masturbation, the skin quality deteriorates significantly, with enlarged pores and dirtiness that is repulsive to look at. The facial complexion is also poor, lacking in vitality, with a dull complexion that seems impossible to clean thoroughly. In reality, it is genuinely impossible to clean because the dirt is from within, and no amount of washing or scrubbing can make it clean.
Masturbation injures kidney qi, and the kidneys have a particularly important function: filtering the blood. In layman's terms, it's "washing the blood." People with uremia have kidneys that don't work well, so they rely on machines to dialyze their blood. The human kidneys filter the blood throughout the body dozens of times a day to maintain its purity and freshness, even while you sleep, your kidneys are still "washing your blood." The bad habit of masturbation injures the kidneys and can affect their filtering function. If the blood is not cleaned properly, it reflects on the face, making it look dirty and dull.
Many people feel that they have not become uglier, but they have. You can compare your photos from a few years ago to see the difference. The ugliness caused by masturbation is not a significant change in facial features but a subtle change in vitality. Let me give you a metaphor to understand: when you go to a fruit store to buy apples, you will choose apples, and you will definitely pick the fresh ones, the kind that are shiny and plump. You would not want the apples with dull colors and shriveled shapes because you know they are not fresh, and the taste must be bad.
Similarly, you after masturbation are like an "expired apple." Although there is not much change in the facial features, it is clear that you are far from the plump vitality of the past. Of course, when the loss of vitality reaches a certain level, it will also cause changes in the facial features. Many people have sunken eye sockets, prominent cheekbones, or smaller eyes, and these situations do occur.

 

[TheCarver]

Masturbation can lead to skin problems. It causes hormonal imbalances, resulting in severe oily skin, frequent breakouts of acne and pimples that are stubborn and may not clear up for years or even decades because the habit of masturbation continues. Medical treatment and medication cannot cure the problem fundamentally because the habit of losing vital energy through masturbation persists. Pores also tend to become enlarged. Before developing, the skin was particularly fresh, oil-free, and delicate. After masturbation, the skin quality deteriorates significantly, with enlarged pores and dirtiness that is repulsive to look at. The facial complexion is also poor, lacking in vitality, with a dull complexion that seems impossible to clean thoroughly. In reality, it is genuinely impossible to clean because the dirt is from within, and no amount of washing or scrubbing can make it clean.
Masturbation injures kidney qi, and the kidneys have a particularly important function: filtering the blood. In layman's terms, it's "washing the blood." People with uremia have kidneys that don't work well, so they rely on machines to dialyze their blood. The human kidneys filter the blood throughout the body dozens of times a day to maintain its purity and freshness, even while you sleep, your kidneys are still "washing your blood." The bad habit of masturbation injures the kidneys and can affect their filtering function. If the blood is not cleaned properly, it reflects on the face, making it look dirty and dull.
Many people feel that they have not become uglier, but they have. You can compare your photos from a few years ago to see the difference. The ugliness caused by masturbation is not a significant change in facial features but a subtle change in vitality. Let me give you a metaphor to understand: when you go to a fruit store to buy apples, you will choose apples, and you will definitely pick the fresh ones, the kind that are shiny and plump. You would not want the apples with dull colors and shriveled shapes because you know they are not fresh, and the taste must be bad.
Similarly, you after masturbation are like an "expired apple." Although there is not much change in the facial features, it is clear that you are far from the plump vitality of the past. Of course, when the loss of vitality reaches a certain level, it will also cause changes in the facial features. Many people have sunken eye sockets, prominent cheekbones, or smaller eyes, and these situations do occur.

interesting, there is some pictures of me where i think i look uglier in my fapping days.

 

[kenshin81]

Masturbation can lead to skin problems. It causes hormonal imbalances, resulting in severe oily skin, frequent breakouts of acne and pimples that are stubborn and may not clear up for years or even decades because the habit of masturbation continues.

Totally unscientific, can't be demonstrated in any way. This is only your thought or your advertising, so that's basically... bullshit. Stop to always write nonsense things and advertise them as truth. Post medical references or stop to write false statements, please.
The comparison with apples is another nonsensical argument, because “perfect” apples are picked at their best time of life (or they are picked unripe but ripened in boxes using chemical additives). You could make the comparison with human age, but the masturbation argument has nothing to do with it.

 

[1year cleaan]

Masturbation can lead to skin problems. It causes hormonal imbalances, resulting in severe oily skin, frequent breakouts of acne and pimples that are stubborn and may not clear up for years or even decades because the habit of masturbation continues. Medical treatment and medication cannot cure the problem fundamentally because the habit of losing vital energy through masturbation persists. Pores also tend to become enlarged. Before developing, the skin was particularly fresh, oil-free, and delicate. After masturbation, the skin quality deteriorates significantly, with enlarged pores and dirtiness that is repulsive to look at. The facial complexion is also poor, lacking in vitality, with a dull complexion that seems impossible to clean thoroughly. In reality, it is genuinely impossible to clean because the dirt is from within, and no amount of washing or scrubbing can make it clean.
Masturbation injures kidney qi, and the kidneys have a particularly important function: filtering the blood. In layman's terms, it's "washing the blood." People with uremia have kidneys that don't work well, so they rely on machines to dialyze their blood. The human kidneys filter the blood throughout the body dozens of times a day to maintain its purity and freshness, even while you sleep, your kidneys are still "washing your blood." The bad habit of masturbation injures the kidneys and can affect their filtering function. If the blood is not cleaned properly, it reflects on the face, making it look dirty and dull.
Many people feel that they have not become uglier, but they have. You can compare your photos from a few years ago to see the difference. The ugliness caused by masturbation is not a significant change in facial features but a subtle change in vitality. Let me give you a metaphor to understand: when you go to a fruit store to buy apples, you will choose apples, and you will definitely pick the fresh ones, the kind that are shiny and plump. You would not want the apples with dull colors and shriveled shapes because you know they are not fresh, and the taste must be bad.
Similarly, you after masturbation are like an "expired apple." Although there is not much change in the facial features, it is clear that you are far from the plump vitality of the past. Of course, when the loss of vitality reaches a certain level, it will also cause changes in the facial features. Many people have sunken eye sockets, prominent cheekbones, or smaller eyes, and these situations do occur.

Very very true its called lack of ojas ..try to read this boos NEVOUS VITALITY its about mastubation harfful effects

 

[kenshin81]

"Very true" where? A book originally printed in 1874... really? The fact that a book exists, doesn't mean it's true. Otherwise all the books about horoscope, magic and so on should be considered "true" as well, which is not, of course.

 

[kenshin81]

It is the reason why, more and more often, I feel like leaving this forum. It is becoming worse than a spiritual cult, where reason does not exist. The coup de grace is reading it as advice to pray to a god for healing.

 

[Explorer7591]

It is the reason why, more and more often, I feel like leaving this forum. It is becoming worse than a spiritual cult, where reason does not exist. The coup de grace is reading it as advice to pray to a god for healing.

i've been experimenting with total abstinence since i beat the P addiction 2 years ago and i can tell you that there is truth to what zusi123 is saying. a lot of people aren't able to see it (that doesn't mean it's not real). yes, it seems you outnumber us but the majority isn't always right. actually the men who are deep into PMO and don't want to give it up and see nothing wrong with it make up most of the male population... so ppl who don't want to give up PMO outnumber you in the same way you outnumber us.

modern science is not reliable since it's made up mostly of PMO people.

 

[kenshin81]

His statement is exactly at the same level as "Even baldness make you less attractive". Impossible to demonstrate, totally unscientific... But bald men are convinced it's true, while you can see everywhere bald men with beautiful women on their side.

 

[Energyonlyforlife]

Very very true its called lack of ojas ..try to read this boos NEVOUS VITALITY its about mastubation harfful effects

great book, thank you for sharing it!

 

[ShutOffValve]

Exactly correct. Tons of books on the topic.

 

[Brocktime]

masturbation can make you tired, tired people are less likely to work out, eat healthy, do chores, etc. also, tiredness isn’t inherently attractive. Abundant energy and vigor is more attractive.

 

[Magic Bullets]

Anyone criticizing NoFap saying things like women don't notise it simply haven't tried it and are probably trolls.

 

[TheCarver]

Anyone criticizing NoFap saying things like women don't notise it simply haven't tried it and are probably trolls.

i mean you have people on here saying its even bs

 

[genericname]

As long as a mans constitution can afford it, he can get away with frequently ejaculating seemingly without any side effects. But once the frequency exceeds his recovery ability, the negative effects will begin to manifest. These are the beginning of sexual exhaustion symptoms. Once the hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis is fully exhausted, the body can no longer jump start its battery, and so you have people who suffer these symptoms for years despite having stopped the destructive practice.

Those who recover quickly have not fully exhausted themselves, so the body still has the ability to jump start the battery and recover. But the exhausted body will shut down the testicular function to kill the libido if the ejaculation frequency is too high, simply to prevent the man from ejaculating himself to death such as insects do when they mate.

Once these symptoms surface, it's best to reverse the destructive practices or the symptoms will get worse and worse until the body is fully burnt out. Pornography will also create PSAS to put the body in a permanently inflamed state to create ejaculation urgency, i.e "chaser effect".

The symtpoms can be reversed by understanding how to use supplements to reverse inflammation, and with knowledge of what kind of state the body is in to use the correct herbs. Most people are too weak and have too much "fire" to use testosterone boosting herbs initially for instance, and need to cool the body down first and kill the stress and inflammation, otherwise those herbs will just make it worse. Every yang herb has its yin counterpart, and understanding how to balance them and accomodate the state of the body is paramount to reversing this mess. But what everybody have in common is a body that is stressed and inflamed, and so everybody will benefit from taking anti-inflammatory supplements. These will dampen ejaculation urgency too(which is not real libido by the way!), because ejaculation urgency is driven by inflammation and not excessive testosterone, which an exhausted person does not produce much of anyway.

The medical community of course is oblivious to all this. They will give you PDE-5 inhibitor drugs to poison your liver and make everything worse.

 

[TheCarver]

As long as a mans constitution can afford it, he can get away with frequently ejaculating seemingly without any side effects. But once the frequency exceeds his recovery ability, the negative effects will begin to manifest. These are the beginning of sexual exhaustion symptoms. Once the hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis is fully exhausted, the body can no longer jump start its battery, and so you have people who suffer these symptoms for years despite having stopped the destructive practice.

Those who recover quickly have not fully exhausted themselves, so the body still has the ability to jump start the battery and recover. But the exhausted body will shut down the testicular function to kill the libido if the ejaculation frequency is too high, simply to prevent the man from ejaculating himself to death such as insects do when they mate.

Once these symptoms surface, it's best to reverse the destructive practices or the symptoms will get worse and worse until the body is fully burnt out. Pornography will also create PSAS to put the body in a permanently inflamed state to create ejaculation urgency, i.e "chaser effect".

The symtpoms can be reversed by understanding how to use supplements to reverse inflammation, and with knowledge of what kind of state the body is in to use the correct herbs. Most people are too weak and have too much "fire" to use testosterone boosting herbs initially for instance, and need to cool the body down first and kill the stress and inflammation, otherwise those herbs will just make it worse. Every yang herb has its yin counterpart, and understanding how to balance them and accomodate the state of the body is paramount to reversing this mess. But what everybody have in common is a body that is stressed and inflamed, and so everybody will benefit from taking anti-inflammatory supplements. These will dampen ejaculation urgency too(which is not real libido by the way!), because ejaculation urgency is driven by inflammation and not excessive testosterone, which an exhausted person does not produce much of anyway.

The medical community of course is oblivious to all this. They will give you PDE-5 inhibitor drugs to poison your liver and make everything worse.

shit! this sounds like something i have i been to a bunch of doctors about irritation when urinating, testicle aches, lower back pain, with all tests that came back normal. and these stupid doctors dont seem to have a clue either besides “take a warm bath and tylenol” how long will my recovery take or is this permanent im afraid? i almost to 90 days

 

[genericname]

shit! this sounds like something i have i been to a bunch of doctors about irritation when urinating, testicle aches, lower back pain, with all tests that came back normal. and these stupid doctors dont seem to have a clue either besides “take a warm bath and tylenol” how long will my recovery take or is this permanent im afraid? i almost to 90 days

I don't want to assume the authority to tell you if you can recover or not, because people on this forum claim to have recovered after all sorts of different periods of time. But I do suggest that if recovery takes a very long time, that sexual exhaustion may be the culprit and not just addiction,
and in that case, the body needs to jumpstart the depleted battery.

In the past, Dr Newman K Lin helped people recover this way. But he passed away last year, and as far as I know there are nobody else to continue in his footsteps. You have TCM practitioners who probably can help the milder cases, but Dr Lin was one of a kind in the sense that he bridged the gap between the eastern and western medicine, and so he used not only herbal blends, but a full spectrum herbal, glandular, vitamin, mineral and amino acid protocol to help the body reverse the negative neuroplasticism and restore it to normalcy. He connected the dots so to speak.

The reason why I post about this in various threads, is that I know it works, because I have devised similar protocols from his foundation and have gotten a lot of relief this way. I've taken the basic principles and found some supplement regimens that have helped me. Since I only have foundational knowledge of TCM principles and not the deep knowledge that he had, it has been a bit hit or miss, but I will share the principles of how to use supplements here, because the anti-inflammatory protocols will work for everyone, and these give a lot of relief from many of the symptoms.

Where it gets complicated is when you add herbs, because you have to balance yin and yang herbs, and the balance needs to be according to the condition of the individual. Some people have a lot of heat, while others have a lot of dampness, and that will determine which how their body responds. That's why it's difficult to generalize it, so I don't really go there, because what works for me might not work for somebody else. Because of this, it will take along time to unpack the information, but I will try to share as much of what I've figured out as I can as I continue to post here.

 

[TheCarver]

I don't want to assume the authority to tell you if you can recover or not, because people on this forum claim to have recovered after all sorts of different periods of time. But I do suggest that if recovery takes a very long time, that sexual exhaustion may be the culprit and not just addiction,
and in that case, the body needs to jumpstart the depleted battery.

In the past, Dr Newman K Lin helped people recover this way. But he passed away last year, and as far as I know there are nobody else to continue in his footsteps. You have TCM practitioners who probably can help the milder cases, but Dr Lin was one of a kind in the sense that he bridged the gap between the eastern and western medicine, and so he used not only herbal blends, but a full spectrum herbal, glandular, vitamin, mineral and amino acid protocol to help the body reverse the negative neuroplasticism and restore it to normalcy. He connected the dots so to speak.

The reason why I post about this in various threads, is that I know it works, because I have devised similar protocols from his foundation and have gotten a lot of relief this way. I've taken the basic principles and found some supplement regimens that have helped me. Since I only have foundational knowledge of TCM principles and not the deep knowledge that he had, it has been a bit hit or miss, but I will share the principles of how to use supplements here, because the anti-inflammatory protocols will work for everyone, and these give a lot of relief from many of the symptoms.

Where it gets complicated is when you add herbs, because you have to balance yin and yang herbs, and the balance needs to be according to the condition of the individual. Some people have a lot of heat, while others have a lot of dampness, and that will determine which how their body responds. That's why it's difficult to generalize it, so I don't really go there, because what works for me might not work for somebody else. Because of this, it will take along time to unpack the information, but I will try to share as much of what I've figured out as I can as I continue to post here.

you wouldn’t be referring to these anti diuretic pills? https://www.diureticspill.com/Product/

 

[Keepitsimple1989]

Anyone criticizing NoFap saying things like women don't notise it simply haven't tried it and are probably trolls.

This has got to be the most flawed logic I have ever read. What you saying is “I only believe people that agree with me, and if someone on nofap disagrees then they are trolls”…….

When I was watching porn and masturbation, I never had an issue attracting women, being in a relationship with women, one nights stands, friends with benefits and talking to women.

When I stopped porn and masturbation, the exact same thing, I never had a problem with women noticing me.

Even when I watched porn and masturbated, I had the exact same results with women when I stopped watching porn and stopped masturbating.

If you want to believe that women have this undiscovered 6th sense where they can “feel” a man isn’t watching porn and masturbating that’s up to you, but don’t be surprised if people laugh at this and people like myself who have experienced the complete opposite with what you saying call you out on this nonsense

 

[abc_and_123]

This has got to be the most flawed logic I have ever read. What you saying is “I only believe people that agree with me, and if someone on nofap disagrees then they are trolls”…….

When I was watching porn and masturbation, I never had an issue attracting women, being in a relationship with women, one nights stands, friends with benefits and talking to women.

When I stopped porn and masturbation, the exact same thing, I never had a problem with women noticing me.

Even when I watched porn and masturbated, I had the exact same results with women when I stopped watching porn and stopped masturbating.

If you want to believe that women have this undiscovered 6th sense where they can “feel” a man isn’t watching porn and masturbating that’s up to you, but don’t be surprised if people laugh at this and people like myself who have experienced the complete opposite with what you saying call you out on this nonsense

The difference might be that guys, who have low self-esteem and want to stop PMO but cannot, are not attracting women at all. When they stop PMO, they get a sense of agency and self-realization, which gives them more confidence. So they notice a big difference, not only in themselves but also how other people are perceiving them. Friendlier, warmer. Whereas in your case, you never had any problem with confidence or self-esteem, so there is no difference expected.

 

[Keepitsimple1989]

The difference might be that guys, who have low self-esteem and want to stop PMO but cannot, are not attracting women at all. When they stop PMO, they get a sense of agency and self-realization, which gives them more confidence. So they notice a big difference, not only in themselves but also how other people are perceiving them. Friendlier, warmer. Whereas in your case, you never had any problem with confidence or self-esteem, so there is no difference expected.

This I agree with and I have stated many times.

I mention exactly what you have said. It isn’t because you are not releasing semen, it’s what comes when you decide to stop porn and masturbation. It isn’t “superpowers” or “aura”, it’s the confidence or belief you start having in yourself