Masturbation conditions you to ejaculate improperly.

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by ultrafabber, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Just a heads up, this may contain some information or description that could be triggering to some.

    This topic is not about semen retention, semen retention in itself is cultish. While I am positive semen should never be wasted down the drain, it should definitely be used to bond with the preferred woman.

    Ejaculation is by design meant to either impregnate or bond the female with the male. We already know it has such properties and it also has antidepressant properties for females. https://www.newscientist.com/articl...olling-power-over-female-genes-and-behaviour/

    So by all means, your semen is pretty much the most important biological thing you have for female selection and retention.

    Which means that whether you're single and looking for a mate or you're in a relationship and want to preserve and make the bond even stronger, you need not waste any drop of your own semen on other than your mate.

    This is most obvious in single guys. What do you think is most important for fitness and reproduction? What would signal to a woman that you're fertile and ready to go? A month's supply of semen ready to get her or some left over dust because you jerked off so much there's nothing left there? A strong, high volume ejaculation or some semen dripping out, if that?

    Semen for a man is extremely important and it's ONLY purpose is female interaction. It would literally not exist otherwise. Masturbation goes completely against it and against nature. Yes it is completely unnatural, I will write a detailed topic about it later. In short, 99.999999999 of animals never masturbate and the very few that do extremely rarely do it do completion (ejaculation). Also, the fact that there is an instance observed in a species does not mean the whole species does it. In primates, only some species were observed masturbating, and those were promiscuous species (humans are not promiscuous). What's even more interesting is that lower ranking males masturbated more and mated less. Other non-promiscuous primates never ever did it.

    Now back to humans. I've been thinking a lot lately about the worst thing this whole sexual degeneracy spawned... cuckolding, hot-wife etc. In terms of degeneracy, cuckolding is peak degeneracy. And while the whole thing is repulsive and mentally disturbed (and people caught up in it need help), there's some information we can learn from it... and i spent time on such forums to better understand this deviant behavior.

    Apparently there's a lot of interest and emphasis on semen there. The "hotwife" coming home with semen from the "bull", the bull claiming her with semen, sending pics, the cuckold masturbating while watching them or thinking about them etc. While this is definitely disturbing, it's simply the representation of what i've written about previously: the cuckold masturbates, the "bull" impregnates and gets the female. The only constant here is the semen. And the cuckold or the inferior man is coerced into throwing away his semen and therefore becoming less fertile while the other man deposits his semen in the woman.

    It's the act of ultimate submission when the man willingly throws away his own semen, rendering himself less fertile. If you were an alpha male in a pack and you got the other males to masturbate to throw away their own semen, you'd be the most successful male there and get the most chances with the females.

    When masturbating you train yourself NOT to ejaculate in or on a female, you train yourself to just empty your balls as much as possible. Even worse, when watching porn - you train yourself to masturbate while watching another man possibly impregnating a woman you were attracted to. So as he ejaculates in/on her, you ejaculate in your hand or whatever. That's cuckold stuff.

    Masturbation is the most messed up thing you can do to yourself as a male, it's discarding the very thing that defines you as a male.

    Semen was never supposed to be thrown away in tissues or down the toilet. It either stays in your or the woman.
     
  2. Limitbreaker

    Limitbreaker Fapstronaut

    Really good topic! I do not agree with every point, but i see the big picture in it and you are totally right on this on in my opinion, we train ourselves to not get a woman and ejaculate in her. Most are taking the "easy" way and just jerk off.

    I really like how you represented semen as a high value male body fluid that women definitly crave for. As we crave for a woman and her feminine essence, her vagina and boobs, we as man have a lot of things to offer to a woman. Muscles and male body shape are just the outside thing, there is so much more. Emotional stability, courage, but also semen.

    Unfortunately most porn movies show semen as something you can just throw away easily, it is most times not praised or valued as something really honorable. In the hawaii culture the genitals are considererd holy and mating is in their culture nothing to be shamed about. No one there suffers under PIED or PE. Why? Because Grandparents and parents raise their kids to not be ashamed and have sex.

    Im coming more from the emotional side and im not a fan of big study acclaimed thesis. What i want to add is this: Sasha Cobra, a tantric woman was once asked if a man should masturbate or ejaculate. She answered like this: How do you feel after that? Do you feel fullfilled and satisfied? Then you should definitely do it and be happy. However, most guys are reporting, that after ejaculation they feel depleted, empty, like in a void. Thats exactly why you should not ejaculate.

    I for myself like masturbation and i have no problem doing it. However, I noticed by doing it to often, that orgasms will not be as powerful as before and sometimes i ejaculated without an orgasm which feels unsatisfying. And this is the problem. Most guys are settling for really unfullfilled binging sessions and deplete their complete potential.

    My advice to this is something like this: Atleast, give your body some time to "reload". Masturbation is healthy in a way you feel good about yourself. If you feel good about you masturbating once a week and it makes you the happiest person on earth then do it ( of course without porn). With this happiness you are far more attractive to women but this is another topic. I would never suggest anyone to completly abstain from mastubation with yourself because of cancer cells being created after a few days in your balls. But, i would definitely say, give your body time to fill yourself up again and do not ever deplete yourself completly. Be aware, that semen is a ressource of high value and it needs a lot of energy being created.

    In the end, the cuckolding you described is a really dangerous and destructive habit. I really liked, how you made the connection there and explained it with the bull. I do not think its only about the semen. The alpha male has many attractive traits and they all add to each other what makes him most attractive. Its not just the semen, its a big psychological complex.

    The first step to enter into this alpha male thinking process could be: Why should i masturbate now if had done it every day for the last 7 days? Why should i really go for another unsatisfying orgasm or only ejaculation? Why do i think, that my semen is of low value? Why do i think, that semen is just a thing to throw away?
     
  3. Yep u do

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    Yeah and smoking help u to take bigger breaths? Maybe there is some good in it but the bad side more important.
     
  4. Naranja Mecánica

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    Wow, this is so true. Never looked at it this way before but you're right. Good thing that I'm quitting all this sh*t for good.
     
  5. Brilliant post. There ought to be more conversations about linking semen to masculinity.
     
  6. Strength And Light

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    If you read the accounts in the Success Stories forum on NoFap, the thing you will see consistently reported over and over again, is an improvement in social anxiety. Think about the above quote. Watching another man possibly impregnating a woman you were attracted to. Then another man with another woman. Watching this over and over and over and over in each PMO session has to have a crippling effect on your social psyche. With porn you are ALWAYS the lowest in the social scale: the voyeur. You are socially invisible, a zero. In quitting porn you are also quitting the social handicapping effect.
     
  7. AlexWillDoIt

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    Humans not promiscuous? Come one!! What about all those fucking around in married couples? Humans are animals, if there is something not in human nature but created by society and human morals it is monogamy. There are many animals that masturbate (even dog) and the thing about semen is healthy for females is just ridiculous. Sorry, don’t want to offend, but all that science behind your words just seems some religious/moral madness.
     
  8. AlexWillDoIt

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    In a bad way I hope you mean
     
  9. ultrafabber

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  11. ultrafabber

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    Yes, that's actually science.
     
  12. AlexWillDoIt

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    Please, give likes to proof (proof is what science does). Otherwise throes are simple statements of what YOU think.
     

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