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Masturbation -- normal healthy thing?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Bryaan, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. Bryaan

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    Well, I do not think, that it's healthy anymore, just because others do it... Anyway, P is not a problem for me, I often used to M(O) without P. But O is still in the picture, I won't be a monk.
    I have many classmates, who even think, that it's a cool thing, to M. I never tought that, not even when I used to PM like 8 times a day. Well, I PMed so much, that my penis often started to actually bleed... That's not normal.
     
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  2. J247

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    Did you use lotion or soap in the shower?
     
  3. Bryaan

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    That's your problem! Gotta treat your member right! Again, when you're that age, P is not an issue, again it's your body experiencing M with an actual O for the first time. Kids all around the world do it. Even ones without tv or internet. It's just human nature.
     
  5. J247

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    But for your sake I can say all the negatives about MO too, if you'd like?
     
  6. Michael Beets

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    J247

    I'd have to disagree with you, I highly doubt that it is in anyway shape or form healthy regardless of age. I'd say for the sake of his mental and sexual health and the way he looks at girls he should try and do it. But I'm not arguing the fact that it is not going to be hard, quite the oppisite, as I'm sure he is well aware. :)

    I would compare it to my computer usage, when I was younger I could sit in front of the computer for hours on end, without feeling an ache or a pain. These days every couple of hours I'm forced to take a break. My point being, just because it doesn't affect you as a teenager doesn't make the affect of the injury of the addiction/activity any less drastical.
     
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  7. J247

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    Didn't you guys have the talk or sex ed in school? Both of which I was told madturbation is a healthy, normal thing. Just do it in moderation. Like alcohol. Drinking in moderation is fine, and observational studies have shown that in moderation it's healthy for you. However if you binge and overdrink then it becomes a problem.

    I like that you disagree though. Get to challenge our views :p
     
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    As per a discussion in another thread that went off-topic, but yet contained value for another discussion, I am creating this thread to host the aforementioned discussion about the pros and cons of masturbation.

    Please keep the forum rules in mind as you proceed to enter this discussion. Treat one another with respect. Be honest and candid, but don't attack each other just because we have differing opinions about the subject at hand.
     
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  10. Chris Kross

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    I'd like to hear your opinion, why are you on PMO-streak. Just because of P stuff or maybe because you feel that you can't control youreself? No offence. I just want to know that.
     
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  11. I wish they had told us the second part. They only told us it was normal and ok, they didn't say anything about addictive!
     
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  12. Tesslynne

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    See, I think THIS is the PROBLEM.

    I think some of us maybe MOST of us are here because we developed an ADDICTION to PMO.

    We DIDN'T do it in moderation.
     
  13. JWwantsalife

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    Yea, masturbation was never really the problem isn't it? The real problem is porn usage while masturbating and you have to understand that.

    Of course, this thread is about the pros and cons of masturbation.

    I'll list them according to my understanding.

    Pros:
    -Does relieve a lot of stress.
    -feels good? (this can be both bad and good)
    -honestly I can't think of any more, all those reports of researches done about the benefits of masturbation is quite BS if you think about it since sex is very subjective to every person so it is really quite hard to make conclusions about this kind of matter.

    Cons:
    -One thinks he can do it in moderation but isn't that what most porn addicts thought of before masturbating more and more often because it feels good? When you do something that pleases you, you naturally want to do it again, just like how you would be craving for that delicious pizza you had yesterday. It is the same thing.
    -And when ones starts to masturbate more often, the dopamine rushes will gradually decrease and you will naturally want to look for more exciting things to boost that dopamine levels. This is also the same as drug addicts, where they gradually start to not feel as high as they did before with that same doses of drugs. So they look for more.
    -And in the process of looking for more, people will start giving excuses and say they will start to "peek" at porn sites.
    -When they look at porn sites, con #2 will occur again, when one no longer feels that same rush while doing the same thing. Gradually one will look at more extreme side of porn and by then, it will be very hard to go back.
    - Another con can also be that masturbating makes you want women less, since you basically can already get pleasure from yourself, so why bother to go through all that hassle to find a girl to do it for you?


    All in all, I'll recommend really moderate sessions of masturbation, like once a month or once every 3 weeks. Don't even make it fortnightly or weekly. You can give all that excuses that you will not fall prey to porn, but we all know too well that it is not the case. So stop giving yourself bullshit excuses and start to be honest with yourself. Do you actually think you can handle the impacts of masturbation? Also start to pursue for girls to do it for you instead. It will be a lot more rewarding.
     
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  14. Chris Kross

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    I'm sorry but I don't think that that fact that you relieve stress belongs to "Pros". Maybe in this case satiety is worse than hunger. Cause' if you feel lack of something (sex, connection, relations) this could be the reason you would seek for these things.
     
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  15. Purps

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    In moderation people do not have problem with P , O , M. Many people who come have gotten addicted to one or all of those things and have not done in moderation. Masturbating is normal thing in moderation and orgasms too in moderation also. Porn is not in my opinion since it gives you fake values and not a real picture of what reality is.
     
  16. SnowWhite

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    Alcohol is :emoji_warning: NOT :emoji_warning: good for everyone.

    Some people cannot drink in moderation - they start to binge.
    Some people simply don't want to drink, because they prefer a clear head = this is true for me. I don't drink since 20 years.

    So the same is true for PMO. Some people might not have a problem with it. Well OK.
    Other people become addicted or have deeper rooted problems, which become worse with PMO.
     
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  17. J247

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    When you binge, that's not in moderation.
     
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