Maybe porn isn't the problem

MJ225 · Nov 2, 2018

Not intending anyone to give up on no PMO but something has been sticking in my mind the last 2 days.

For me and many others the worst effect of porn is that it has given me no sex drive and ED towards real girls now some might put this down to "desensitisation" but I'm not sure if this is actually the porn, my porn tastes have morphed to include gay and trans porn but even now those generally lost their spark and I've never found the weirder genres appealing even though logic says my use should continue to escalate far it's, straight, trans and gay with no weird fetishes other than the plain genre, I don't even know how long I've been stimulating myself to get erect but its probably been at least a year maybe 2, I can't hold an erection without constant stimulation.

So to get to the point, what if porn isn't the problem? what if I and I'm sure many others here just have low testosterone? all the side effects of "PMO" are also signs of low test, fatigue and feeling tired all the time, ED, no libido, emotional numbness yeah we can still get hard and get ourselves since porn is a stimulant but when we quit our lack of test is unmasked, we say desensitization and flatline but the symptoms of flatline are also the symptoms of low test.

Just to clarify I'm not saying we should quit NoFap because I am certainly not at least not yet until I;m proven otherwise, so far this is just a theory that's been in my head and I wanted to get it out here, I'm sure porn is not healthy in excess levels but to saw it can go as far as to kill off millenia old biological impulses just seems a bit off, I've also chatted with some guys who have been "cured" after TRT.

I will be having my test levels checked within the next month hopefully and I shall report back the findings,it doesn't seem possible that a man with high test or even normal levels for their current age can have no sex drive

Deleted Account · Nov 3, 2018

You can have normal or even high levels of test and still have ed, esp pied. This is from my own experience. I got severe ed early this year
I also had depression, which lead me to believe I had low test, I started trt around May time, it has dramatically improved my well being and because I now goto the gym regularly I am getting healthier and stronger.
However it hasn’t improved the pied
This made me to a lot of reading here and other sites as to,why this is, which leads me to believe the following...
Pied is about dopemine.
Through constant porn, sexting and fantasy I was in a frequent state of elevated dopemine rushing through my body
This caused my brain to shut down the dopemine receptors, it’s wa staying to find homeostasis
This caused me to seek out novel porn and more sexting partners to keep the dopemine up
My brain still shutting down to find balance
Then wham they just shut down one day, I went into flatline and depression
Even more evidence to show this is that I get nocturnal wood most nights (I didn’t get any for the first couple of months)
Nocturnal wood is not started by dopemine, but daytime wood is
I know the trt is working because my nocturnal wood is more like steel
My current streak is 12 days, if what I thinks gonna happen happens by doing 90days NoFap then when it comes back it will will force due to the trt
I’ll let know know how it goes

Deleted Account · Nov 3, 2018

Not one size fits all. It is a complex topic.

Deleted Account · Nov 3, 2018

We are the problem

Blacky's · Nov 3, 2018

Nah, brother, I don't think so. P is the problem, maybe not necesarily for your sex drive (courious about the test result) but it is a problem for everything else.
Or at least for me.
I don't have erecticle disfunction and I have no sex-struggle with my GF at all. It just makes me feel terrible, makes me superficial, makes me tired, makes me unfree.

Deleted Account · Nov 3, 2018

MJ225 said: ↑

Not intending anyone to give up on no PMO but something has been sticking in my mind the last 2 days.

For me and many others the worst effect of porn is that it has given me no sex drive and ED towards real girls now some might put this down to "desensitisation" but I'm not sure if this is actually the porn, my porn tastes have morphed to include gay and trans porn but even now those generally lost their spark and I've never found the weirder genres appealing even though logic says my use should continue to escalate far it's, straight, trans and gay with no weird fetishes other than the plain genre, I don't even know how long I've been stimulating myself to get erect but its probably been at least a year maybe 2, I can't hold an erection without constant stimulation.

So to get to the point, what if porn isn't the problem? what if I and I'm sure many others here just have low testosterone? all the side effects of "PMO" are also signs of low test, fatigue and feeling tired all the time, ED, no libido, emotional numbness yeah we can still get hard and get ourselves since porn is a stimulant but when we quit our lack of test is unmasked, we say desensitization and flatline but the symptoms of flatline are also the symptoms of low test.

Just to clarify I'm not saying we should quit NoFap because I am certainly not at least not yet until I;m proven otherwise, so far this is just a theory that's been in my head and I wanted to get it out here, I'm sure porn is not healthy in excess levels but to saw it can go as far as to kill off millenia old biological impulses just seems a bit off, I've also chatted with some guys who have been "cured" after TRT.

I will be having my test levels checked within the next month hopefully and I shall report back the findings,it doesn't seem possible that a man with high test or even normal levels for their current age can have no sex drive
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Yeah dude I thought the same as you. I escalated to trans stuff and eventually felt stimulated by nothing. I got my T pulled, and it was very high! I also learned I was def. an addict after trying to quit and being unable to for a long period of time.

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