MO Right Now!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Phallosopher, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. Phallosopher

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    BACKGROUND (SKIP IF YOU WANT AND SCROLL DOWN TO TECHNIQUE)

    I had typed something long here but forget it, you don't need to know my personal story and if you do you can find it elsewhere on the site. Below is the most useful technique I have come up with yet.

    I encourage you, right now, to MO. In fact, I encourage you to MO whenever you want. I'm serious. Go masturbate, immediately. Just make sure you do it really well (as described below).

    (Notice I left off P. P is terrible and immoral and involving others in your habit who didn't get to decide with you personally that they want to be involved. But you, on your own, do whatever you want.)

    SKIP TO HERE FOR TECHNIQUE:

    ITERATION 1:

    Part 1 of the Technique:

    You've probably done what is basically part 1a before already, but not consistently or deeply. Part 1a is... think deeply about what is causing your urge. You may go ahead with it, in fact I encourage that... go for the MO as long as you contemplate and write down exactly why you plan to do it. If after this you still want to, go right ahead. Enjoy yourself.

    Part 1b, you'll probably remember this well enough to document it afterwards. What were you thinking about right before O? Write that down. Now go ahead, wash up and calm your nerves before part 2.

    Part 2 of the Technique:

    By now, X number of minutes have passed since O. Write about how you feel. You may even do this a few times additionally, later than those first few minutes afterwards when you write for the first time. You'll find numerous posts on here by people saying they feel like shit afterwards, but of course... if that's how it always was, none of them, none of you, would have ever PMOed in the first place, right? Sometimes it feels great, doesn't it?

    Write about it.

    ITERATION 2 through N:

    Part 0 (yes, 0, this is new for the remaining iterations it takes you to quit for good)

    Always be conscious of how you feel. Wait, what's that? You feel like some M and O again? Do it. Do it now. Yes, do it immediately.

    But do it the right way. Refer to Part 1 above for a reminder.

    Also, this time... take note of how your initial feeling in this round N compares to your feelings in the last round, N-1. Is it the same or is it different?

    A. If it is the same, congratulations, you're delving into a really deep sexual/relational trauma you need to resolve. Since you're doing this, you have a chance at stopping PMO forever and doing so easily. If you don't do this, it will remain as difficult as ever and if you do stop, it will be by subjecting yourself to a constant even if subtle tension.

    B. If it is different, congratulations, you've traveled a layer deeper, you're that much closer to solving your problem. This deeper layer, maybe it's what your problem really is.

    C. Wait, what's that? Did you just decide you don't want to MO this time? Good job. Don't do it, until of course... you want to again.

    Compare your feelings at the end of different rounds too. You'll understand from those a bit more each time about what really makes you feel good sexually. You haven't found a real woman to experience it with yet, but those times you MO and feel relieved instead of drained and demoralized... chances are you were just without a woman, but were in touch with a healthy and acceptable sense of need for release.

    D. D is for done. At this point, which some of you can't even imagine right now, you'll never even think of PMO again. At this point, you will have found and conquered that terrible thing that got you started, and returned to that underlying state of innocence and right to have good sex that was always yours.

    MONK MODE BONUS.

    For the "monk mode" version of this, you must MO every time you think something about a woman you would not pursue doing with her in the next 30 seconds. After you've mastered the general technique, I personally dare you to do this.

    Good luck to you all. Let me know how it goes for me / hit me up with questions / whatever.
     
  2. When All Light Dies

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    Nofap has always been about cutting out porn.

    Nothing wrong with MO. "P-free" is "normal mode" and a well respected and established way to reboot.
     
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  3. StarRider

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    No?

    MO is the cause and reinforcer of PMO addiction in the first place.
     
  4. StarRider

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    Yeah, that's why it has been called "NoFap", because "Fap" means "Porn".

    Only that it doesn't reboot anything, it makes the addiction worse.
     
  5. When All Light Dies

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    StarRider, you obviously don't know much about nofap.
    Please educate yourself: https://nofap.com/rebooting/
    Thank you.

    And just because something doesn't work for YOU, doesn't mean it can't work for others ;)
     
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  6. StarRider

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    I subscribe to NoFap theory, not NoFap.com.
     
  7. When All Light Dies

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    Which is the birthplace of the original NoFap founder.

    So basically you subscribe to your own theory. In your own world. Best of luck!

    PS: Maybe you should name your own groundbreaking theory differently, though. The name "nofap" is already taken.
     
  8. StarRider

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    NoFap started as a joke challenge on Reddit.
     
  9. When All Light Dies

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    Then maybe you should have this discussion on reddit and not on nofap.com.
     
  10. StarRider

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    This thread is on forum.nofap.com.
     
  11. Phallosopher

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    @When All Light Dies , I appreciate all the comments here, so feel free to continue productive discussion, but don't turn others away from my thread.

    The others have caught on quite well. I'm talking about MO in this thread, moving past the P that we all agree is bad news.

    @StarRider that's kind of what I'm getting at, "cause and reinforcer", I like that.

    The MO part is your own relationship with your sexual tension, you literally take it into your own hands. Still though, unless you have an all-pervasive fetish for your own hands, you probably had sexual preferences involving other people at first. If you don't get what you want, or enough of what you want from them, you fantasize and MO to relieve sexual tensions yourself. You have thoughts and feelings that tell you when this is a good idea to do, and characterize what starts it and what happens afterwards for you. This is the part I'm getting at fixing, getting back to something healthy that maybe you got away from in your own head.

    Not just in your own head you say? Yeah, thanks P. If M and O are the cause and reinforcer, P is the accelerator. You used to have to find and purchase a magazine to access that enhanced stimulus for MO, expending some effort on the outside to relieve the burden inside of having to come up with a good fantasy and stick to believing it could ever be reality. At least back then you had to go get that magazine, bring it to the cashier, get some social feedback and then go home with what might not really reflect your deepest sexual preferences.

    Now there's a whole internet out there for you. You can find pretty much anything you want and PMO until you're all the way fucked up on it. Stopping that is step one, but you still have a difficult road ahead if you don't then sort out the M and the O.

    Tell me, @When All Light Dies, do you want to MO for the rest of your life or are you looking to meet a girl and be free of the baggage that had you sitting around dick in hand and missing out on them and will send you back there soon enough of she doesn't want to put up with it?
     
  12. When All Light Dies

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    Which is the forum of nofap.com
    Not sure if you are being stubborn or if this is an actual lack of intellectual capacity on display.
     
  13. StarRider

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    Porn is actually an pretty scapegoat masking the actual sex addiction: the addiction to masturbation.
     
  14. When All Light Dies

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    I am afraid we do nofap for entirely different reasons.
    I don't need to "meet a girl". I had and have more girls in my life than I can count and never had an issue with that.

    I do it to get the laser focus and sharpness and mind that only nofap offers, as well as some other benefits such as motivation to work out etc.

    Also, I do the PMO-free challenge myself. I simply pointed out that your approach is not new. The concept of nofap does allow MO, as pointed out. It's not my cup of tea, but it's not like you reinvented the wheel.
     
  15. StarRider

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    Same for me. I do NoFap beside other reasons to actually cool my romantic side.

    We get more healthy overall.

    Masturbating doesn't actually provide any (reboot) benefits. Low Stimulus Masturbation is actually harmful.
     
  16. Phallosopher

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    @StarRider yeah that's what I'm getting at. MO might as well be like alcoholism or something... just another way to numb your pain instead of fighting the source of it and winning.

    @When All Light Dies actually it turns out we're quite similar. Cool. Do you ever feel uncomfortable before or after the MO part?
     
  17. When All Light Dies

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    No.
     
  18. pajerito123

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    I cannot comprehend why most people in this forum are completely sure that masturbation is unhealthy. Not even the opinion of professional doctors, sexologist and psychologists are enough but the founder itself have told us repeatedly that masturbation is not the problem but porn.

    If you can't handle masturbation without porn it does not mean that other people can't and it sure doesn't mean that is unhealthy because it does not suit you.

    Don't believe your opinion is the ultimate truth just because it is your opinion. If you don't have any evidence or solid proof then at best you can say that you really don't know.

    Exactly my point, maybe in your scenario it seems to you that it makes the addiction worse, but that doesn't mean it applies to everyone. It does not mean that you have the truth regarding the subject-matter. Don't give advice just to convince yourself.
     
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  19. StarRider

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    That porn is a problem is a fringe theory. It's what you can't stop doing in front it. That's the actual addiction. It's not looking at booze, it's drinking it. It's not looking at cigarettes, it's smoking them.

    You don't need to handle "jerking off", you simply stop doing it like many on this forum choose to do and have a healthy und much less messy life (without seed spilled everywhere) - with the male sexual organ being used how it's supposed to be used: inside the female sexual organ.

    People on this forum regularly bring themselves into low stimulus, because they can't stop themselves otherwise. Then they run into all kinds of problems with other stimuli (just go read the complaints about women's clothing) they feel the need to masturbate to. This forum's content including the vicious defense of masturbation is proof enough for where the actual addiction lies.

    And yes, low stimulus masturbation is a very harmful thing to do. It's a sure way to ED and other sexual dysfunctions. A few years from now just like many others you will look back at your mistake and stop being in denial.
     
  20. pajerito123

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    Again, you are just giving your opinion. It seems that you did not get the point of my idea. I am not defending masturbation. I really don't know if it is helpful or is a mistake as you call it. I am just criticizing the fact that you seem to know all the answers regarding masturbation. The fact is no one really knows. They are all just theories. People who specialize in the matter have the opinion that a non-excessive amount of masturbation has no problem at all. I choose to believe them.

    You are just a regular guy (I don't mean it in a bad way) who is a porn addict with no studies on the subject (correct me if I am wrong) that made an opinion very convenience to himself. I am trying to point to you that you may be wrong.

    Personally, I think that if you allow yourself to masturbate, you will end up looking porn. Because of that you prefer to conclude that masturbation itself is inherently bad and made up some bullshit argument so it is easier for you to recover from your addiction. It is almost like a defensive mechanism.

    Anyway... I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I hope that it work for you your own way and you get continuous success but I can't help to notice the repeatedly pattern of thinking like you in this forum and I just don't agree with it.

    Take care
     

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