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Music videos – Watered down porn?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by FormerFapaholic, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. FormerFapaholic

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    SINCE quitting PMO, I have started to enjoy and appreciate the simple things in life. Especially what I have right in front of me. Reading books, walking the dog, having a coffee, but music and art are the things I’ve always enjoyed. Especially on the creative and emotional side of it.

    I’m probably going to be turning into – and sounding like – a grumpy old prude as I write this. I saw a number of music videos by chance, when my brother’s girlfriend wanted to put the music channels on as we played drinking games on Christmas Day with the family. It really dawned on me on how overly sexual music videos have become from the clarity I've gained over time from quitting PMO.

    To some extent, there has always been some sexual element to the lyrics of many songs. But on the videos of songs for years have been subtle and tastefully done. Usually in a playful, and tongue-in-cheek manner. The romance in it makes it somewhat, sweet and innocent. Especially in contrast to more recent music videos.

    But in recent years, many record labels, producers, even the artists, like to push boundaries. On how far they can go when they use – and even sexually exploit people on music videos. It’s all cynically done for the sake of publicity. As a means of getting the hits on YouTube, thus more people downloading and listening to the music. They’re quids* in and laughing all the way to the bank.

    I’m reaching a conclusion that music videos in recent times has become watered down pornography. Where there are scantily clad women – sometimes the artists themselves – with their provocative moves as well, leaving nothing or little to the imagination. I get the impression that the music industry is using – and even exploiting people – for ratings. The objectification of women, by using their sexuality rather than use the artists’ musical skills, raw talent and creativity to sell records. It epitomises on what’s wrong with modern-day music to a wider extent. You can write a list of artists longer than your arm that do this.

    Rap and hip-hop music videos have been the worst offenders for being too sexual. But mainstream and manufactured pop music are just as bad. Though, rock, heavy metal and punk rock music have their fair share of videos using women (or even men) as sex objects too. The sad reality is that sex sells. No wonder porn is a multi-billion-dollar industry as much I hate to know and accept this sickening fact itself.

    But the real concern is that too many children get exposed to the explicit material that music videos have become in epidemic proportions. It can deprive them of having a good childhood. Where they should be happy, innocent and carefree.

    What’s worse is that there are children and adolescents that do look up to these artists. That can have an adverse effect on their development and well-being. Put them under pressure to look, behave or act a certain way just to fit in. That condition them in doing it as a means of seeking validation. Also, if it’s OK to act and behave like this, then it’s alright for me to be like him or her. See what I mean?

    Don’t get me wrong. I love and appreciate a woman’s sexuality – and sex itself. I’m all for freedom of expression per se. But if you want to express or flaunt your sexuality. Surely there’s a time and a place for that, right?



    *Quid - slang term for money in British English for the pound/sterling currency. Like bucks is for dollars in the United States and Australia.
     
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  2. Precisely that. Mentally fantisizing is just the same, just more internal, so if you dwell on it enough you can build it and have it affect you just like actual porn watching. Some people so weak theyre bodies fuses blow up from just a mental image. Pity them and their state and keep yourself strong.
     
  3. Dark days we live. Porn everywhere even it its more subtle. Kids growing up with all those things implemented in their head.
    I hate media. I don't even have a TV man! I quit watching TV years ago. I only have my computer which I work on and play some games/ watch movies that I carefully select. I never really liked the music that's on TV, which is a good thing I guess.
     
  4. FormerFapaholic

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    Absolutely. Over time from quitting PMO, I hardly watch TV these days. Reading books has become more my thing. I hardly read newspapers or watch the news on TV. If I do, they're from more reliable sources.

    Like what you said, it never ceases to amaze me on how the media can brainwash people.
     
  5. Me too. Just started doing it and after a couple months when I saw the crap on TV, at friends houses, etc, I realised I suffered no lossess at all from it. Only good comes from it. A stupid waste of time that flat rectangle is! You want news ? Internet!.. you don't need their special extra andrenaline making songs over dramatic car crash deaths because one of the drivers was drunk; in your life!
     
  6. I am sadly hearing young kids talking about stuff they don't even have yet.( you know what i mean). Disrespecting others with words and phrases that should never come off a kids mind. I wish there were more strict regulations regarding media and content distribution. I don't even know if that we can see today can even be called filtered content.
     
  7. Oh yes there is! Yes there is.
     
  8. FormerFapaholic

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    Yes, it is up to the artist. But money hungry producers of the record labels, and/or the artists' agents or managers, do influence them on using sex or their sexuality to promote and sell records. Money talks.

    Music is such a subjective field. The sad thing is that more and more artists use sex more than their musical skills and creativity to do this. This can leave people questioning on whether they have any actual talent. Are they popular because of how they look, and project their sexuality more than how their music sounds?

    You are right though. If artists do have true talent. They won't have to prance around half naked to compensate for what they lack in talent or ability.

    Take Adele for example. Yes, her music is usually about relationships and reflection of her life. But it's not crass like they are from a number of female artists. Some may not view her as beautiful because of society's vision of what good looks like. Beauty is indeed, eye (and thought) of the beholder. Personally, I think she's beautiful.

    It's her raw talent with her amazing voice, and her songwriting skills that shines through. She doesn't have to express and project her sexuality for her music to get recognition, thus, selling records. The same probably can't be said about the likes of Rihanna, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift. For those reasons alone, I have a lot of respect for Adele.
     
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  9. FormerFapaholic

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    Yeah, it's staggering beyond belief on how bands like One Direction are more popular than Mumford and Sons.
     
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  10. Music videos have always been garbage imo. Part of what I love so much about music is that your mind comes up with the imagery! Music videos force what image they want upon you. Of course songs about sex aren’t good for anyone in the first place.
     
  11. Personally my glass is half full rather than half empty when it comes to the music industry. When you compare to what it was like in the 90's and the early 00's it's in a better state. Nowadays we have artists making music from their soul rather than for a commercial gain. Don't get me wrong there's a number who making it for the latter but more and more aren't.

    Really, thanks to the internet, the music industry is in the process of changing. Record labels don't have the power like they used to. Instead of artists seeking out labels, labels are seeking out artists. If an artists goes viral online record labels come after them and really if the artist doesn't like what they offer they have power to turn them down. Of course not every independent artist has record labels chasing them and some don't make it but there has been a shift in the power dynamics. I actually think in 50 years time we might not have record labels because there's will no need for them.

    I definitely think there will be no music TV or radio. It's a mystery to me why anyone listens to music on the radio today when you have streaming services. Two years ago I got fed up of music radio stations and switch to streaming and have never looked back. I mean why would you listen to a radio stations playlist when you can create your own playlist on Spotify, Deezer or Apple Music? Sure you pay between £5 - £10 a month but considering you can listen to as many albums as you want per month I'd say you're getting a great deal. As for music TV I think it's more and more irrelevant as the days go by. Ok occasionally I put it on if I ever want music in the background when the TV is on but that's like 3 times a year. Lol! I do think there'll be a place for live concerts on TV but MTV is no competition for YouTube. They're trying to fight it but I think deep down they know it's only a matter of time when they're no more.
     
  12. There's plenty of artists like Adele you just have to seek them out. There's someone like Ingrid Michaelson who imo is a lot more talented than Adele (she plays the guitar, banjo and piano - all her songs are written by her and they all seem to be from her heart). Then you have someone like Julien Baker. I just discovered her and all I can say is wow! A lot of her songs are about depression and she says, 'sad songs make me feel better' but she's pretty amazing. Other good artists who aren't using sex to sell music are Mat Kearney, Johnnyswim, Låpsley, Fleurie and Rhiannon Giddens.

    It's was pretty hilarious back in 2011 Aaradhna had a bit of melt down and started publicly attacking and mocking her record label. Before the melt down had this pretty girl image with long hair but she ended up shaving it all off, it was really her way of saying f**k you to the record label. Somehow she was able to sort out the issues between her record label because she released another album for them, but lyrically the album was full of attitude and the style was very different. Not sure if I would put her on the list of artists not using sex to sell her music since on her recent album she is
    topless with her (now long) hair covering her chest
    but I think it's unlikely she was forced to do it, since she wasn't afraid to take on her old record label.

    But I do think you guys are being far too negative here. There is great music being made today that will uplift you and challenge you (in a good way) and you're missing out on it. Just because it's not on the radio or TV doesn't mean it's not being made. And the media isn't so bad, the BBC got behind Låpsley before she got a record deal and Rhiannon Giddens album was on The Guardians top 50 albums of 2017.
     
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  13. FormerFapaholic

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    Thank you for some recommendations here. I shall have a listen to their music.
     
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  14. t-jam

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    Ya many are turning into harder and harder softcore by the day.

    The music industry is full of alot of fake people just looking to cash out. Substance is still there and where substance is "watered down porn music videos" should not be often found if at all.

    If this is a concern and music is still desired...SoundCloud or Google Play Music or iTunes yo.

    YouTube and Vimeo have some cool music videos without any sexualization but there is always a risk of triggers in this world.



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  15. t-jam

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    Sorry for that song. Not a recommendation.

    Um, i can recommend Zack Hemsey for starters. Otherwise check out recovery and inspiring song threads here lots of ideas out there.

     

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