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My AP is done with NoFap

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Lazarus Shuttlesworth, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. He is no longer on these forums but I do keep in touch with him in my accountability group. anyways he told me that not being able to get hard on day 140 was the last straw for him. He was supposed to lose his virginity that day but was unable to get hard. I tried telling him that NoFap is a marathon and that it’s a process but he said he’s done.. I feel bad for the dude. He’s also about to use his dads penis pills at the age of 18.. Isn’t that too young? :/
     
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  2. TimeToQuitNow

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    He should see a doctor.

    For some people on this website porn is the reason for ED so NoFap is the cure. But he probably has a different medical problem.

    Regardless you should probably find a new AP
     
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  4. IGY

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    Less than 5 months? As he is still a teenager it is obvious that his brain is extremely altered because he was using high speed internet porn throughout puberty, when plasticity was at it's maximum. Pruning those pathways and rebooting will take much longer than in an older dude that indulged in less harmful forms of porn in those formative years. I rather think that in his disappointment, he has likely broken his abstinence from PMO. If so, that's a real pity.
    Hmm. Technically he may be an adult, but he needs to mature. Penis pills is not the answer. He has got to put the effort in and sustain it over an extended period (perhaps a year). He is looking for some quick, easy fix. It's just not going to work.
     
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  5. IGY

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    Most doctors will tell him that masturbation is healthy and maybe porn, too. I don't see how this will help him. Clearly, he does have ED if he couldn't penetrate during intercourse. :( So, I agree: NoFap - long-term PMO abstinence - is the cure.
     
  6. He did see a doctor. All I know is that he didn’t talk about his porn addiction with him.
    Personally, I think the ED might have been due to him being nervous. 140 days of hardmode with no edging shoulda cured his PIED problem. Then again maybe it does take longer for some people. Some of us have been fapping for much longer and I have other AP. It’s a NoFap accountability group that I am in.
     
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  7. He said he did complete hardmode with no edging. That’s what makes it more upsetting for him, understandably so.
     
  8. I 100% agree. I tried my best to explain that to him but he said he’s done with NoFap. My last piece of advice to him was to at least quit watching porn, and if he’s gonna fap then don’t use porn because it’ll only make things worst.
     
  9. IGY

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    That was good advice man and I feel empathy for him. Let's hope he returns with renewed motivation before too long. :)

    I think when I was on this thread earlier, your counter was at 4. So, it seems you have had a slip there Lazarus. That is a shame. I encourage you to put all your experience to good use and avoid doing it again and again i.e. binging. Good luck.
     
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  10. Understandable indeed. Of course it was only one night, and he was supposed to be losing his virginity. Maybe he was just anxious. Who knows really. Hope he's doing okay.
     
  11. Headspace

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    Didn't read the above answers but...

    It might be that abstinence, no matter how long, is not enough to achieve healthy functioning during intercourse. It could be that he has to get used to it first.

    He should only see a doctor or take potency pills if he is unable to masturbate, too, i.e. if he has actual potency issues, which are urological. If he is able to masturbate, it's clearly not a urological, but a neurological or psychological issue. Neurological, because he is used to feeling his dick in his hand during sexual arousal, which is a sensation that is absent during actual intercrouse - the receptors in his brain might be trained to having that sensation in his hand, which is just gone now. Psychological, because deep down inside intimacy might scare him since he isn't used to be with another person during sexual arousal - akin to feeling ashamed when you're sitting on the toilet while someone is watching. Both might not go away by abstinence alone, but only by having regular (or irregular) sexual intercourse.

    Ideally, he should treat it that way - although I'd feel inclined to believe there is no neurological treatmeant so far. But I don't know. Also, potency pills might give him a start and a confidence boost which might ease the psychological difficulties. But in the long run he should get rid of them. (Recently someone said he used to cover his erection issues using pills, but it only worked for so long - may be that was because the issues he had weren't actually urological!) Moreover, before taking this pills he should actually see an urologist I suppose.

    Still, the best way to heal would be to keep on trying and let both the neurological and psychological disposition get back to where it belongs in a natural way, over time. You need to be patient and have strong nerves for that, and his girlfriend (if there is any) does, too. (Of course he would have to talk to her about his addiction, actually proving her that it's not her fault.)

    This is not meant to be scientific advice. It is clearly "bro science". Just me trying to make sense. Am I?

    There's also some personal experience included, though. I am having sex again after a long time on my own now, and I started off with both erection/arousal difficulties and premature ejaculation, but it's getting a little better each time. I am patient, and my girl is, too. Going step by step as I do in my PMO abstinence. Moreover, few years ago I'd rather suffer delayed or no ejaculation during vaginal intercourse than premature ejaculation - but I also had great sex a few times inbetween. Thus, there really can be actual changes when you give it enough time.

    Coud you send him these ideas, @Lazarus Shuttlesworth?

    PS: My first, second and third time were a catastrophe as well. An incredibly attractive woman who I admired inside and outside and had chased for half a year. Couldn't even get hard enough to penetrate her during our second time. But that was many years ago, and now I've had good sex before and I have a positive outlook towards the future, without ever having seen a uroligst, neurologist or psychiatrist.
     
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