My complicated dating life as a virgin suffering from PIED

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  1. TheMathFolder

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    Sex was a personal chimera for a big chunk of my life. Different factors, mostly shyness and an addiction to porn that I used constantly to kill my libido, kept me from being anywhere close to a sexual experience all the way till my mid-twenties. My virginity was an incredibly pressing issue that, often inadvertently, was taking an increasing toll on my self-esteem.

    As I made changes in my life to get out of my comfort zone, I finally started to break out of that shell. I found my purpose, and that purpose was to have sex so that I could lose my virginity once and for all. I put myself out there and started to be more social and more shameless in my interactions with women. After years of total inactivity, I found myself having my first kiss, going on my first dates. At last, I had something of a love life — as opposed to, you know, nothing. I felt like I was getting closer to that moment that I had anticipated for so long: losing my virginity.

    Imagine my disappointment when the long-awaited event was finally going to happen and my penis decided not to attend.

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    A soft penis is a hard pill to swallow. The only thing being raised are questions, as the man wonders why his body does not reflect the cravings in his mind at the same time that his partner doubts whether such cravings really exist.
    I remember the tension in my body as I started making out with a girl. My hands and my mouth are on autopilot as my concentration focuses on my penis and how it will behave this time. A bit into the makeout session I notice there is no activity down there, and she does too as soon as things escalate and she reaches down my pants. I feel my heart beating strong as she strokes my flaccid dick, trying to bring it to life. She takes my pants off in an attempt to remove all obstacles, unaware that the main obstacle is not there, but all the way up in my head. I anxiously lay down as she goes down on me, struggling to suck my elusive, floppy dick. I notice the change in her demeanor as she realizes that her efforts are having no effect on me whatsoever. I close my eyes and try to bring to my imagination any image or memory that can help me get hard, but after a while, when I feel like I can’t tolerate the cringe any longer, I give up. “Hey, I don’t think it’s going to happen today. I don’t know why, I’m sorry”. I offer to give her oral, but as I’m doing it all I can think about is how I failed again. What’s worse, I have the feeling she’s thinking the same thing. We clumsily wrap it up and call it a night, and she gets an Uber to go back home.

    Of course, lost erections do not necessarily have to be traumatic experiences. I always made an effort to stay cool and find other ways to enjoy with my partners, and for the most part so did them. However, after enough failed attempts, keeping a positive attitude starts to get more and more difficult. Frustration quickly built up both for me and for my sexual partners, especially for those with whom I spent more than one night. They saw how an incident that at first might have just been isolated revealed itself more and more as a sort of permanent condition.

    Understandably, not all girls are willing to work through a partner’s recurring erectile dysfunction. It is not something most people are willing to sign up for if all they are seeking is a casual relationship. This is why I made the habit of lying about the whole situation whenever I would hook up with a new partner and inevitably suffered from impotence once again. “It’s happened to me before, but it’s not something that I usually struggle with”. “It sometimes happens when I first start dating a girl, but it always goes away soon”. This seemed easier than coming out and admitting to a long-standing issue. In all honesty, I was selfishly trying not to scare them away from a second or third date, which I saw as further chances for me to one-sidedly and little by little try to work on my problem.

    However, my faked nonchalance and insistence on it not being a recurring issue only left them thinking it might be them causing it. It often hurt their self-esteem as they doubted whether their attractiveness and sexual skills were good enough for me. I saw my candidates for hookup buddies drop one after another as either I or they stopped calling the other to avoid more awkward encounters.

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    Dating while suffering from erectile dysfunction is a wild ride. After enough disappointing experiences, I soon came to expect the worst and developed bad associations with sex. There was a constant and fierce internal battle where a part of me really looked forward to having sex while the other part was absolutely terrified of it. The same part would not always win. Sometimes I would be straightforward and invite the girl over to my place, others I would avoid it no matter how obviously she showed her interest. A part of me would be hopeful about going on a date, the other was jubilant when the date did not go well and I got to come back to the safety of my room all by myself.

    And yet, as embarrassing as many of these encounters were, they seemed to be slowly helping me make progress and grow slightly more comfortable with sex. Motivated by these little improvements, I would force myself to hunt for sex, many times dating girls I wasn’t really attracted to or risking friends by making a move on them. Aware of my actions, my self-image deteriorated and I alternated periods of time where I desperately sought sexual partners with others where I would keep away from dating altogether, burnt out by the whole thing. It seemed like every tiny advance came only after so much effort and collateral damage. The process looked less like a healthy struggle to overcome my problems and more like a desperate fight against invisible enemies. Deep down, I felt lost in a hopeless battle against my mind and my body.

    It was in this desperate situation that I ended up meeting a girl that would put me on the right track. Right when I had almost stopped caring, the same flaming app that had been fueling my frustrating dating life finally got me in touch with the right person. With her, I felt comfortable opening up and being vulnerable, and I saw much more progress than before. Although I kept struggling with erectile dysfunction way into it, our relationship gave me the perfect context to work on my issues with intimacy and it eventually helped me overcome my impotence and take other important steps towards a more satisfactory sex life.

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    Reflecting on it, it’s clear what different factors contributed to my erectile dysfunction. Surely the pressure to lose my virginity was a mental barrier too strong to overcome. For so many years, I had learned to feel inferior and blame many of my problems on my lack of sex, and in doing so I had turned sex into an immense deal. Losing my virginity was, in my eyes, the opportunity to finally turn my life around for the better. The expectations were insanely high and I found them impossible to be up to. Once I came across my erection problems, I fell into a negative spiral where my anxiety about previous experiences turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy every time I got a new chance.

    Yet performance anxiety was not the only thing behind my erectile dysfunction. My addiction to porn had laid the perfect ground for such an issue to prosper much more easily than it would have for anyone else. Years of abusing porn had built an unrealistic image of what sex should be, what my and my partner’s bodies should look like, and how we were supposed to act — contributing to my obsession with performance. It had also conditioned my body to respond to a very specific type of stimulation. The grip of a hand seemed to be the only thing that worked on my penis, a connection hard-wired into my brain after years of compulsive masturbation. This explains how handjobs were the sexual act I least struggled with, while every other kind of stimulation seemed to do nothing for me.

    An obvious consequence is that I did not get to enjoy my dating life as a single man. My problems with sex tainted the whole experience with unnecessary stress and anxiousness. In bed, not only did I fail to get erections, but more importantly I failed to welcome and enjoy all the other things that I could indeed do. My erectile dysfunction had built a great wall of anxiety that was blocking everything else from my view. Looking back, I barely remember anything from those sexual experiences. A bundle of nerves, I was so much in my head that I can’t really recall how any of those kisses, touches, and blowjobs felt. My extreme self-awareness prevented me from being in the moment and focusing on the sensations, turning sex into an arduous endeavor instead of a pleasurable experience. On top of that, in my selfish, blind search for a solution, I was neglecting others’ feelings as well as my own.

    Ultimately, I was fighting the wrong battle. I was mistakenly placing all my focus on my virginity and my sexual performance, and failing to see how my erectile dysfunction was only part of larger issues. A poor self-image, my addiction to porn, problems with intimacy. These were the things that I needed to deal with, the real blockers that prevented me from enjoying sex. Only later, in the more comfortable framework of a long-term relationship, would I be able to work on the real issues and take steps towards a healthier sex life. Along the way, I eventually managed to overcome my erectile dysfunction, but, more importantly, I was able to reframe what sex meant for me. A deep and emotional — regardless of how fleeting— connection with someone, a feast for the senses, an occasion to let go, be present and be vulnerable, an exciting, fun, and pleasurable experience. Something to enjoy, and not to just have.
     
  2. whathaveidone88

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    "A soft penis is a hard pill to swallow. The only thing being raised are questions..."

    That shit's poetry. Hilarious poetry at that. Very insightful and well written story. I would normally say good luck with your journey or some shit like that but it sounds like you've already got your priorities in the right place. Thank you for sharing such a healthy perspective on sexuality with this forum. Keep up the great work.
     
  3. Andreid

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    This is clearly one of the most inspiring stories I've ever read here. I'm glad you managed to beat this bad addiction. I wish you the best and tell us more about your life if you want to.
     
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  4. God_Mode_Activated!!

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    For the first time in the forum, I took time to read such a long story and it was really worth it!

    "Losing your virginity" - is literally bullshit.
    I remember once when I said to a female friend, "I have not kissed anyone until now." She seemed really shocked.
    And it was really weird for me that she took physical touch so casually. Despite getting proposed by girls and chances to kiss or make out, I simply have not done anything.

    Hence, I can totally relate to your story. And also it's a great lesson for youngsters out there who think "if you lose your virginity, only then you become a man."
     
  5. _most.high_

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    if i cando it , so can you man
     
  6. TheMathFolder

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    Thanks for reading it!

    The virginity issue can sometimes be blown totally out of proportion. It definitely was for me, and I wasn't the best at handling all that pressure.
    To be fair though, I was the one putting most of that pressure on myself. I didn't personally experience much pressure or shaming from others, except for perhaps a brief period of time in my late teenage years. Most people grow up after that and learn to respect you and your situation, and even my closest friends that knew I was still a virgin didn't usually bring it up or bother me about it.

    Whatever the case may be, it would be good to normalize it a little bit more. Being a virgin doesn't need to be something to be ashamed of or pressured about —particularly if it is by choice— and it certainly doesn't make one less of a man!
     
  7. Depressed&Out

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    I'm a 37 year-old virgin (with severe PIED). I'm so sick and tried of my existence. I never even had one intimate or romantic moment in my 20s (not even close). In my 30s I managed to go on two dates and kiss two girls - but that's about it. It didn't get me anywhere. That's the closest to having a female friends or GFs. They are like aliens to me.

    My life seems extremely hopeless due to the PIED and lack of access to meet people (I live in a village without own transport, I don't drink and don't have many friends - therefore going out is a challenge for me).

    My only hope is to continue speed dating after the pandemic calms down - but this is at the moment far, far away.

    I'm just so sick and depressed.
     
  8. TheMathFolder

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    I'm so sorry to hear that.
    There is always hope. Always. Things can get better, especially if you don't give up and keep trying new ways to improve your situation.
    It sounds like you are not foreign to dating and you've already kissed a couple of girls. I know it might seem like nothing for your age but I know from experience that those can be huge steps when you start from scratch and late, so I congratulate you for it sincerely. Progress is progress!

    I'm sure you can find ways to put yourself out there. Speed dating sounds great, maybe joining group classes or other similar activities, dating apps, whatever can get you to interact with other people, romantically or not.
    I would even suggest moving to a different city, if that's an option. To other people it might seem extreme to do that just to get laid, but I'd say it's absolutely worth it if this is an issue that is affecting you so much and making you unhappy. I did it, and it's what helped me break out of my shell and finally start making progress.

    Don't worry about your age or the time wasted, just focus on how you can improve your current situation. Be happy with every little thing that you achieve and keep working on yourself and your life!
     
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  9. ThePhoenix27

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    Thank you for sharing your story. May I ask, when you were dating and failing to have sex, were you still watching porn, in a mid-reboot (like 30-60 days), or were you at 90+ days of Nofap and still had issues having sex?
     
  10. Depressed&Out

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    I was going through a 3 year no PMO but with MOing every now and then for my first date. For my second date, I was halfway through a 6 months hardmode (again, this is during my 3 years no PMO).

    The times where I kissed the girls I was going through similar phases as above (the two girls that I kissed were not the girls from my date. They were girls that I kissed when I was clubbing).
     
  11. Depressed&Out

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    Also, I'm reallt faltering here, I'm relapsing quite a few times now. All of them are mini relapses, but I'm experiencing soo much craving - mainly because of the lockdown and that I dont have much to do. So frustrating.
     
  12. TheMathFolder

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    In my case, I was still watching porn. It wasn't as bad as in previous years but I would still occasionally watch it. I don't think I was going more than one or two weeks straight without it.
     
  13. TantraMan

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    For how long have you been suffering from PIED?
     
  14. Depressed&Out

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    Since summer 2014, so when I was 30-31.
     
  15. TantraMan

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    That's a long time not to see improvements in your situation, what have you tried so far to overcome PIED?
     
  16. Depressed&Out

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    Yep, I even went three years without P or PMO. Not much changed apart from small signs that then disappear (for example, I went though a spell where a MW was present for 2-3 weeks, albeit it not rock hard).

    I've pretty much everything required apart from wiring to a GF (not able to find one).

    I exercise regularly
    Eat a clean diet
    In very good shape
    I work
    I save money
    I study
    I meditate every now and then
    I'm not on any medication

    Yes, my stress levels have been high for a long time, but I don't think this is affecting my erections.

    In fact, my erections, since starting my reboot journey in 2017, have actually gotten worse (this is because I PMO relapsed 2-3 times. With every relapse my erection would get worse).

    I truly look like a hopeless case.
     
  17. TheMathFolder

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    Well, not all erectile dysfunction is porn-induced.
    Have you gone to a doctor? There could be an underlying medical condition behind your erection problems.
     
  18. Depressed&Out

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    I have, doctors are useless for me! Not much they can do - all blood tests are 'normal'!

    As I mentioned, with each relapse, my erection have gotten worse, it's I'm pretty sure it's PIED.

    I would say the reason I haven't improved is because I have not wired with a girl. This is particularly important if you are a virgin. At least if you are experienced, you still have the sexual pathways present. But I don't.
     

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