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My idea for what to do post-90 day challenge

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Marcus Aurelius, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Fapstronaut

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    So I've been looking at critiques of NoFap and different opinions on whether or not abstaining from masturbation is healthy. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like there is any settled science on the matter and people's opinions seem to be highly affected by confirmation bias. Truthfully, I don't know if a layman like myself can be certain of the answer. What I'm left with is that it is possible that an indefinite retention of semen might be unhealthy.

    That said here are some things I know for sure:
    • I am addicted to PMO
    • Porn is unhealthy for me because:
    • a) It creates a false impression of what sex is like.
    • b) This false expectation will cause problems because I am conditioning myself to be satisfied with nothing less than an infinite harem that will do anything, will never say "no" to anything, and whose feelings or needs I never need to take into account. It goes without saying that this expectation I am conditioning myself to have through porn will cause problems in my theoretical future marriage.
    • c) It has allowed me to let my sadistic tendencies to get out of hand.
    • I can't just go out and get married tomorrow and thus have a healthy release. I have never dated before and, though I feel ready to once the right person comes along, the dating process will still take years until marriage happens. And that's assuming the right person will come along.
    So my proposed compromise is this. After I complete the 90-day challenge, I masturbate without any porn or other visual stimulus. What I imagine as I am doing it will be strictly "vanilla" and I may try to de-personalize it (i.e. don't picture anyone specific, just a mental picture of the female body). And once I am done, I abstain for another 90 days, masturbate, and repeat indefinitely. The important thing is that I would have given up porn, I wouldn't be a masturbation junkie even without the porn, and I am safeguarding against the possibility that failing to "clean out my system" regularly is unhealthy.

    Also note that I would only do this if I don't experience some kind of involuntary semen emission (e.g. wet dreams) during my 90-day reboot. If I do, then I will assume that my body knows how to take care of itself and that masturbation is therefore unnecessary.

    This is strictly hypothetical at this point and I may well change my mind before my 90 days are up, but I would be interested in feedback. Does this sound like a good idea or would this just lead me back to relapse?
     
  2. Valhal

    Valhal Fapstronaut

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    In my opinion it sounds like a good idea... If you can go without PMO for 90 days, then masturbate without porn, then go back to 90 days, I think that's a very strong way to go. But maybe the masturbating part will not be necessary because of natural reactions from the body. How often do you get wet dreams?
     
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  3. Marcus Aurelius

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    Thanks for the reply. :)

    The thing is I never get wet dreams. I don't think I've ever gotten one except for when I was young and got my first orgasm when I was asleep/waking up (though since it happened pre-puberty, I guess it wasn't technically a "wet" dream). I've been getting my release via masturbation pretty much ever since then, so I've never really "needed" to have a wet dream. Maybe now that I am abstaining from masturbation, I will finally get one. I guess I'll find out.
     
  4. Valhal

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    Alright! I think maybe that could change when you're abstaining. I never get wet dreams during times where I masturbate frequently... but after a while of NoFap, it often happens. I had three wet dreams on my current streak (36 days as of today)

    Anyway, good luck getting to those 90 days, I hope it goes well. It's an exciting journey for sure, so enjoy it all the way
     
  5. Does this sound like a good idea or would this just lead me back to relapse?

    Could be both. It could lead you back to a relapse, but so could lead you the chaser effect after sex with a real person. I think you're right in that your body (not your brain) knows best. If you are compromising to masturbate and there's a voice that says "Man, that's actually not a good idea", then you shouldn't do it. I guess you'll have to try the first time and see how you feel. You could also try to avoid picturing anything in particular during that MO, just an almost "medical" kind of release.
     
  6. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Fapstronaut

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    Yeah. This is all one big experiment anyway. Even if it is a relapse, I think it would be a temporary one because I feel like the tide has turned. I see know how harmful PMO can be...

    I've thought of that. Just doing the manual action without visualizing anything. I'm not sure if it would work though. Don't know until I try, I guess.
     
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