theconventionalmasturbator
Fapstronaut
Hi Everyone,
First of all, what is prone masturbation? Prone Masturbation is achieving orgasm, faced down, either by thrusting into a pillow, thrusting into duvet/mattress, thrusting into hand or anything equivalent.
Why should you stop it immediately? It will DESTROY your sex life, leaving you with a NUMB penis and severe ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. By engaging in prone masturbation you are effectively training/conditioning your penis to ejaculate under conditions (i.e. intense pressure) that cannot be mimicked by your partner! Please Stop NOW! Yes Prone feels good,
My Case
23 y.o. Male, Circumcised at 17 (due to phimosis), Prone masturbated since the age of 12, Never knew anything different, Thought it was a harmless variation and had never been able to masturbate by hand! I remember briefly trying the hand method at 15 (because all my friends were making jokes about their masturbation sessions and they all did it by hand), but could never really achieve orgasm, so continued to prone till 22. Recently found it was a problem when becoming sexually active, sex wasn't enjoyable, i didn't feel much, it was almost impossible to ejaculate through vaginal stimulation and would almost always conclude with me having ED.
If you would like to know more about prone masturbation, i recommend checking out the website 'Healthy Strokes'. This website saved my life! http://www.healthystrokes.com/pronechange.html. They also have a great Q&A section to help answer some of your questions.
After 6 months of hard work, discipline and patience, i am now fully cured of prone masturbation and i am now planning to start the 90 day+ NoFap Challenge. The effects of prone masturbation are 100% reversible and below i will suggest my top tips.
1) You Must Give Up Prone Masturbation Immediately and Forever
2) Follow the Basic Plan on the Healthy Strokes Website.
- Use Lube
- Unfortunately, i have to recommend high-arousal content (i.e. porn) to help sustain your erection in the early stages. At times you will have ED, just wait 2 hours and try again, DO NOT REVERT BACK TO PRONE! I did this many times... especially when i couldn't finish
- Make sure you abstain for 7 days, this will provide you with the increased sensitivity to achieve orgasm. Follow this plan, If you Orgasm in 40 Mins+ then Abstain for 5 Days, If you Orgasm 20-39 Mins then Abstain for 3 Days, If you Orgasm in 10-19 Mins then Abstain for 2 Days. Then After go Daily.
- Contrary to healthy stroke, I do not recommend using the Super Head Honcho sex toy to tackle this Problem! IMO, it only hinder your progress, it will not provide a shortcut to overcoming prone and it breaks quickly.
- When you see pre-cum, either grip as hard as you can or go as fast as you can (or both) to orgasm (*IMPORTANT* this is acceptable in the early stages of the recovery process but don't make it a habit or you will suffer from death grip syndrome).
3) Follow the Anti-Death Grip Plan, to Adapt to a Lighter Grip (Strongly Advised to Purchase a Flesh Light because it's hard case prevents you from using the death grip out of frustration)
Extra Tips/Learnings
- In the early stages, don't worry about how long it takes to ejaculate, However, severe prone masturbators should expect to average 30-40 minutes by week 4 and Less severe 15-20 minutes.
- Really try to feel the sensations of this new technique and try to stimulate different areas to find your sweet spots. The mind also plays a key role, so focus on pleasure rather than continuously thinking whether you are going to cum or not!
- Make sure you are slowly decreasing your grip strength (to a very light/soft) to speed up your progress. Start by slowing down when about to cum! Then do it a 30 seconds before, 1 minute before, 2 minutes before, etc. Until its 100% Light Grip.
- Full Recovery should happen after 6 months or less! Remember everyone is different and it may even take a year
- Try to arrange your sessions in a place which is undisturbed, with no need to rush! (so less of the danger Fap's lol)
- Limit edging
- Stick to ONE Orgasm a Day Max, Multiple Fap's Will Not Speed Up Progress! In fact they make it worse because realise, excessive fapping can also contribute to ED & DE, especially if you are using pornography as a stimulant
- I found that the supplement Phenibut, made it easier to achieve ejaculation in my early quest to master the conventional method. Try it out for yourself and let me know if you experience the same! WARNING: It can be addictive, so either use temporarily or be very careful.
- A good diet and lifestyle can also aid the process. Eat tuna, watermelon, eggs, have a high protein diet. Drink Pomegranate Juice! Lift weights, reduce your body fat. All this will help with the sex drive, it will make you more aroused, it will strengthen your erections, and make it easier for you to achieve orgasm.
3 Theories for Why We Masturbated Prone & How to further improve sensitivity
- I believe the education system and parents failed us, I was never taught about masturbation, I was never told about how to do it in a healthy manner and I sure was not taught about its negative effects!
- I believe my case of 'Phimosis' (A tight foreskin) until the age of 17 made me more likely to develop prone habits. My case of phimosis meant that my foreskin did not retract behind the head, and when erect, this gave me great sensations when i would lie on my stomach sleeping. As a child I didn't know what was what, I just put 2 and 2 together and engaged in prone masturbation as it felt f**king great!
- I believe that for those who are circumcised and who are still struggling with DE & achieving conventional masturbation should consider foreskin restoration. Restoring full non-erect coverage or even partial coverage at a minimum can greatly increase your sensitivity, ability to ejaculate and overall pleasure during sex. I am currently on CI-4 for foreskin restoration and the benefits already are crazy. In fact, just 'retaining' provides great sensitivity benefits and that is more or less instant! Recently, I achieved my earliest masturbation session of just 20 seconds! The whole feeling was completely different. This amazes me when I look back at that first time it took me 2 hours and my dick was numb af! This is fairly recent and I am yet to try sex in this state, but I will update you guys! I also believe men who are circumcised in early infancy or between the ages of 6-12 are also more likely to engage in prone masturbation. Alternatives to foreskin restoration - moisturise the penis - man1 oil can help.
For those who have completed the training, understand that you are not fully cured until you rewire with a real woman! It is likely that you may still fail the first few times, but its the same principle! Go 7 days NoFap to give yourself the best chance possible. If unsuccessful, either wait another few days or try when you are feeling really horny. As you keep doing this, your brain and penis will rewire to these feelings/sensations and you will eventually achieve orgasm.
"But Conventional I haven't got a girlfriend, so what should I do"? Well its time to enter the game my friend! Now is your time! Also let me warn you, DO NOT RESORT TO ESCORTS!! I repeat, NO ESCORTS when trying to overcome prone! This will most likely end up with you getting ED and wasting your money, not to mention more feelings of sadness, another addiction to worry about and even a prone relapse! I'm not personally against seeing escorts but I am when it comes to using them to overcome prone and DE.
After your training is complete, go on NoFap and free yourself from XXX forever and PMO Addiction. Personally, I'm against masturbation now, because the more you masturbate, the more likely you are to watch porn, use death grip, train yourself to cum in a unrealistic way, desensitise yourself to the vagina and only be able to cum by hand, etc. Treat your urge as an excuse to speak to real women, that is its purpose after all. Get your sex life together, live happy and stop escaping through self-pleasure! Yes people will say its normal to masturbate to porn, but lets face it, us prone addicts aren't normal, we have experienced trauma that no man should ever have to face, and now we are out of the hole, lets make the most of it and stick it another one loolll.
Also, prior to this training, I went 70 days NoFap and Came with a girl in 20 mins!! So NoFap alone is one of the quickest routes to recovery! This training programme is primarily here to make sure you never engage in the destructive practice that is Prone Masturbation!! and its unrealistic to assume you are never going to masturbate again in your life, so at least when you do, you are doing it in a somewhat healthier way!
REMEMBER NEVER TO REVERT TO PRONE MASTURBATION AGAIN! There will be times when you are frustrated, because the new method won't be as enjoyable and it will take much longer. There may also be darker times where you feel as if you will never be able to satisfy a woman or be satisfied by a woman and just engage in Prone out of anger/sadness. But don't ever let this trick you into continuing the practice of prone masturbation. Just remember why you are doing this and that it is reversible! In Fact, take it one step further and quit pornography/frequent masturbation for good!
New Extra Update (June 23)
I am loving life, my sex drive is at its peak, i'm getting morning wood more frequently, I am in the best shape of my life, and most importantly, having and sustaining an erection + achieving orgasm is no longer an issue for me! In fact I can finish with a condom in as little as 2 minutes! If this was told to me when I was first in recovery, I would have laughed at the mockery, as it took me over 40 mins to masturbate! Also, i've given up on porn for about 4 weeks, I have no interest anymore, I just want real women and real relationships! So if I, a heavy prone masturbator from the age of 9 to 22, circumcised at 17, suffered depression, anxiety, ED, DE, PTSD about my failed sexual experiences and performance, can succeed, then you have NO EXCUSE! Good Luck!
Note (Updated June 2023)
Thank you for all your kind messages, over 125,000+ views now, and it honestly makes my day every time i get an email about someones success story in overcoming prone! I am very grateful for all your support and for the support you provide to others in this forum, i will continue to add extra tips, learnings and information on my journey throughout the years! Stay tuned and let this be a community where everyone helps one another! I try my best to reply to your messages, but I'm not on this forum very often, so expect delays (no pun intended)! I'm out here living life now, i've paid my dues, I can't waste another moment!
First of all, what is prone masturbation? Prone Masturbation is achieving orgasm, faced down, either by thrusting into a pillow, thrusting into duvet/mattress, thrusting into hand or anything equivalent.
Why should you stop it immediately? It will DESTROY your sex life, leaving you with a NUMB penis and severe ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. By engaging in prone masturbation you are effectively training/conditioning your penis to ejaculate under conditions (i.e. intense pressure) that cannot be mimicked by your partner! Please Stop NOW! Yes Prone feels good,
My Case
23 y.o. Male, Circumcised at 17 (due to phimosis), Prone masturbated since the age of 12, Never knew anything different, Thought it was a harmless variation and had never been able to masturbate by hand! I remember briefly trying the hand method at 15 (because all my friends were making jokes about their masturbation sessions and they all did it by hand), but could never really achieve orgasm, so continued to prone till 22. Recently found it was a problem when becoming sexually active, sex wasn't enjoyable, i didn't feel much, it was almost impossible to ejaculate through vaginal stimulation and would almost always conclude with me having ED.
If you would like to know more about prone masturbation, i recommend checking out the website 'Healthy Strokes'. This website saved my life! http://www.healthystrokes.com/pronechange.html. They also have a great Q&A section to help answer some of your questions.
After 6 months of hard work, discipline and patience, i am now fully cured of prone masturbation and i am now planning to start the 90 day+ NoFap Challenge. The effects of prone masturbation are 100% reversible and below i will suggest my top tips.
1) You Must Give Up Prone Masturbation Immediately and Forever
2) Follow the Basic Plan on the Healthy Strokes Website.
- Abstain from Masturbation (and all sexual activity) for 7 Days
- After 7 Days, Attempt Masturbation by Hand (can take up to 2 hours so make sure you have a quiet place where you won't be disturbed)
- Masturbate by Hand for 30 Days before attempting sex with partner
- Use Lube
- Unfortunately, i have to recommend high-arousal content (i.e. porn) to help sustain your erection in the early stages. At times you will have ED, just wait 2 hours and try again, DO NOT REVERT BACK TO PRONE! I did this many times... especially when i couldn't finish
- Make sure you abstain for 7 days, this will provide you with the increased sensitivity to achieve orgasm. Follow this plan, If you Orgasm in 40 Mins+ then Abstain for 5 Days, If you Orgasm 20-39 Mins then Abstain for 3 Days, If you Orgasm in 10-19 Mins then Abstain for 2 Days. Then After go Daily.
- Contrary to healthy stroke, I do not recommend using the Super Head Honcho sex toy to tackle this Problem! IMO, it only hinder your progress, it will not provide a shortcut to overcoming prone and it breaks quickly.
- When you see pre-cum, either grip as hard as you can or go as fast as you can (or both) to orgasm (*IMPORTANT* this is acceptable in the early stages of the recovery process but don't make it a habit or you will suffer from death grip syndrome).
3) Follow the Anti-Death Grip Plan, to Adapt to a Lighter Grip (Strongly Advised to Purchase a Flesh Light because it's hard case prevents you from using the death grip out of frustration)
- Abstain from Masturbation (and all sexual activity) for 7 Days (Week 1)
- Masturbate Once Max (week) , gradually loosening grip/decreasing speed (Week 2) - Use Hand or Fleshlight
- Masturbate Twice Max (week), gradually loosening grip/decreasing speed (Week 3) - Use Hand or Fleshlight
- Masturbate Twice Max (week), gradually loosening grip/decreasing speed (Week 4) - Use Hand or Fleshlight
Extra Tips/Learnings
- In the early stages, don't worry about how long it takes to ejaculate, However, severe prone masturbators should expect to average 30-40 minutes by week 4 and Less severe 15-20 minutes.
- Really try to feel the sensations of this new technique and try to stimulate different areas to find your sweet spots. The mind also plays a key role, so focus on pleasure rather than continuously thinking whether you are going to cum or not!
- Make sure you are slowly decreasing your grip strength (to a very light/soft) to speed up your progress. Start by slowing down when about to cum! Then do it a 30 seconds before, 1 minute before, 2 minutes before, etc. Until its 100% Light Grip.
- Full Recovery should happen after 6 months or less! Remember everyone is different and it may even take a year
- Try to arrange your sessions in a place which is undisturbed, with no need to rush! (so less of the danger Fap's lol)
- Limit edging
- Stick to ONE Orgasm a Day Max, Multiple Fap's Will Not Speed Up Progress! In fact they make it worse because realise, excessive fapping can also contribute to ED & DE, especially if you are using pornography as a stimulant
- I found that the supplement Phenibut, made it easier to achieve ejaculation in my early quest to master the conventional method. Try it out for yourself and let me know if you experience the same! WARNING: It can be addictive, so either use temporarily or be very careful.
- A good diet and lifestyle can also aid the process. Eat tuna, watermelon, eggs, have a high protein diet. Drink Pomegranate Juice! Lift weights, reduce your body fat. All this will help with the sex drive, it will make you more aroused, it will strengthen your erections, and make it easier for you to achieve orgasm.
3 Theories for Why We Masturbated Prone & How to further improve sensitivity
- I believe the education system and parents failed us, I was never taught about masturbation, I was never told about how to do it in a healthy manner and I sure was not taught about its negative effects!
- I believe my case of 'Phimosis' (A tight foreskin) until the age of 17 made me more likely to develop prone habits. My case of phimosis meant that my foreskin did not retract behind the head, and when erect, this gave me great sensations when i would lie on my stomach sleeping. As a child I didn't know what was what, I just put 2 and 2 together and engaged in prone masturbation as it felt f**king great!
- I believe that for those who are circumcised and who are still struggling with DE & achieving conventional masturbation should consider foreskin restoration. Restoring full non-erect coverage or even partial coverage at a minimum can greatly increase your sensitivity, ability to ejaculate and overall pleasure during sex. I am currently on CI-4 for foreskin restoration and the benefits already are crazy. In fact, just 'retaining' provides great sensitivity benefits and that is more or less instant! Recently, I achieved my earliest masturbation session of just 20 seconds! The whole feeling was completely different. This amazes me when I look back at that first time it took me 2 hours and my dick was numb af! This is fairly recent and I am yet to try sex in this state, but I will update you guys! I also believe men who are circumcised in early infancy or between the ages of 6-12 are also more likely to engage in prone masturbation. Alternatives to foreskin restoration - moisturise the penis - man1 oil can help.
For those who have completed the training, understand that you are not fully cured until you rewire with a real woman! It is likely that you may still fail the first few times, but its the same principle! Go 7 days NoFap to give yourself the best chance possible. If unsuccessful, either wait another few days or try when you are feeling really horny. As you keep doing this, your brain and penis will rewire to these feelings/sensations and you will eventually achieve orgasm.
"But Conventional I haven't got a girlfriend, so what should I do"? Well its time to enter the game my friend! Now is your time! Also let me warn you, DO NOT RESORT TO ESCORTS!! I repeat, NO ESCORTS when trying to overcome prone! This will most likely end up with you getting ED and wasting your money, not to mention more feelings of sadness, another addiction to worry about and even a prone relapse! I'm not personally against seeing escorts but I am when it comes to using them to overcome prone and DE.
After your training is complete, go on NoFap and free yourself from XXX forever and PMO Addiction. Personally, I'm against masturbation now, because the more you masturbate, the more likely you are to watch porn, use death grip, train yourself to cum in a unrealistic way, desensitise yourself to the vagina and only be able to cum by hand, etc. Treat your urge as an excuse to speak to real women, that is its purpose after all. Get your sex life together, live happy and stop escaping through self-pleasure! Yes people will say its normal to masturbate to porn, but lets face it, us prone addicts aren't normal, we have experienced trauma that no man should ever have to face, and now we are out of the hole, lets make the most of it and stick it another one loolll.
Also, prior to this training, I went 70 days NoFap and Came with a girl in 20 mins!! So NoFap alone is one of the quickest routes to recovery! This training programme is primarily here to make sure you never engage in the destructive practice that is Prone Masturbation!! and its unrealistic to assume you are never going to masturbate again in your life, so at least when you do, you are doing it in a somewhat healthier way!
REMEMBER NEVER TO REVERT TO PRONE MASTURBATION AGAIN! There will be times when you are frustrated, because the new method won't be as enjoyable and it will take much longer. There may also be darker times where you feel as if you will never be able to satisfy a woman or be satisfied by a woman and just engage in Prone out of anger/sadness. But don't ever let this trick you into continuing the practice of prone masturbation. Just remember why you are doing this and that it is reversible! In Fact, take it one step further and quit pornography/frequent masturbation for good!
New Extra Update (June 23)
I am loving life, my sex drive is at its peak, i'm getting morning wood more frequently, I am in the best shape of my life, and most importantly, having and sustaining an erection + achieving orgasm is no longer an issue for me! In fact I can finish with a condom in as little as 2 minutes! If this was told to me when I was first in recovery, I would have laughed at the mockery, as it took me over 40 mins to masturbate! Also, i've given up on porn for about 4 weeks, I have no interest anymore, I just want real women and real relationships! So if I, a heavy prone masturbator from the age of 9 to 22, circumcised at 17, suffered depression, anxiety, ED, DE, PTSD about my failed sexual experiences and performance, can succeed, then you have NO EXCUSE! Good Luck!
Note (Updated June 2023)
Thank you for all your kind messages, over 125,000+ views now, and it honestly makes my day every time i get an email about someones success story in overcoming prone! I am very grateful for all your support and for the support you provide to others in this forum, i will continue to add extra tips, learnings and information on my journey throughout the years! Stay tuned and let this be a community where everyone helps one another! I try my best to reply to your messages, but I'm not on this forum very often, so expect delays (no pun intended)! I'm out here living life now, i've paid my dues, I can't waste another moment!
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