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Need Help Coping with Rejection

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by SaturnDaytona456, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. SaturnDaytona456

    SaturnDaytona456 Fapstronaut

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    I got shot down today and need advice, will explain but it's kind of a long story sorry. My confidence is through the roof with having avoided PMO for the last few weeks. I have had several promising encounters with women recently and I believe my intentions are as pure as they come (for a man looking for real relationships and or relations). That being said, when I get discouraged or badly flatlined it can get pretty ugly. I had a bad bout of flatline and doubt the other day which thankfully passed and I went back to my preferred mindset. Today I asked a woman (whose interaction seemed promising) for her phone number and she said no. I haven't gotten a concrete "no" before, but I only ask when I'm pretty sure she is interested. I have maybe gotten five or six phone numbers in my life, but I'm very new to REALLY trying to meet women, and being my best. I journaled the experience and I understand that having courage and making attempts is what will ultimately lead to the desired outcome. I understand that I need to be making the first move and taking "no" for an answer with as little aftermath to her or my ego as possible. I also understand to leave women the hell alone who aren't interested. There is no way I would have been better off to chicken out and not make this attempt. I never would have seen this woman again and I am better off for having tried, nothing could convince me otherwise at this point. I'm not cowering to my laptop to blow off steam with an hour or two porn binge. I was tactful and told her "thanks anyway".

    When I get flatline depressed or discouraged it's debilitating. The words "It shouldn't be this difficult" repeat in my head over and over and I just get furious, I blame everyone including myself and it's a bad deal. I REALLY REALLY REALLY NEED to prevent or at least minimize those lows. Love and dating have been tremendously difficult for me but I CANNOT fall into such bitter places or I will spiral down into resentment. In this moment, feeling rejected does not seem so bad but I need coping advice from men who make lots of attempts, and who actively try to meet women in the real world, not online/ tinder or whatever.

    The purpose of my post is to ask for help coping with rejection because I am worried that the next time I'm discouraged, that the various "ghostings" and soft rejections will add up along with what happened today and could become "too much for me" causing a relapse or spell of resentment or any number of terrible things that could affect my progress.
     
  2. p1n1983

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    Maybe you shouldn't date until you are more stable in your mood.

    Dating is a numbers game. The reality is that most of the womans you like are not going to like you back.
    Maybe 10 out of 100 will like you and want to go out with you. Of that 10 only 2..3 will hookup with you, so don´t be upset if a girl don´t like you, it´s normal! You need to go thru a lot of "No" to get to the "Yes".

    I was like you in the past, the "No" was so hard to digest for me. Today i just lets them go and i take care of the ones that said yes.
     
  3. SaturnDaytona456

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    Thanks for the post. I am more stable than perhaps I've ever been, so hopefully I didn't mis-represent myself with the OP. I am really putting myself out there for once and basically trying to learn how to take rejection with ease through repeat exposure, while not "expecting it". I am also working at being more attractive in general in terms of general wellness and whatnot. There is a long way to go but my main focus is just getting more social experience of any kind at this point.
     
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  4. I have absolutely no dating experience whatsoever (I plan to start trying this autumn), but I still think I can contribute. First, detach yourself from your automatic thoughts, you don't have to listen to them, they aren't you. Think "are these thoughts helpful and/or true?". Challenge them as they arise; after all, it's just a setback. Another tactic that can work is to accept the thoughts ("right, it shouldn't be this difficult, but at least I'm trying"). You can take the time to write down what happened, what your thoughts and feelings are and (most important step) how you could reframe it to feel better about it. Also, get busy doing something when you feel like the emotions are too much, anything (well, not sad music:p).

    This is standard CBT stuff, if anyone recognizes it.
     
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  5. IbrahimViking

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    I think you misperceive your problem, bro.
    You have great attitude, you did everything right according to your values, and have a mature philosophical view on the entire situation.
    What I suggest you change is the JUDGMENT you put on your normal, absolutely understandable emotions. You are doing what one of my teachers calls "turning a misdemeanor into a felony". It's your opinion that you should NOT feel the pang of pain that keeps you miserable. What you resist, persists. Your reaction of "should not feel sad" keeps you stuck in the low feelings. Pain to rejection is a normal reaction, approve of it and you'll see how it will run through you in minutes and evolve. You wouldn't hate your hand for hurting when you put it in fire by accident, you'd appreciate the signal "hey, step back".
    Now, about the girl. She might be in love, or in a shitty mood or think she looks ugly that day (when she doesn't), or feel unworthy, or a million other things. Has nothing to do with you - she's just the wrong girl. But you know all this. You're doing great, man, just stop torturing yourself for feeling your preferences. Rejection is what we don't want, so no wonder it feels bad. But it will pass quickly if you don't try to fight it (the low feeling). I promise.
     
  6. LewisBrunner

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    Relationships are not only about flirting and dating, but should also include a common interest. Maybe this route will help you find someone suitable.
     
  7. I have some experience in being turned down and ghosted by women. When i was younger I was really pissed off by being turned down while i was mad at them for not being interested i was also thinking there was something wrong with me like i wasnt enough and had to be more. As made my way threw the dating game i found out a few things. If a women is interested she will meet you no matter what and will not offer lame or strange excuses . One of the big thing i look for if a women isnt that exicted to meet me i move on TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO LIKE YOU IS DRAINING AND POINTLESS . Another thing i learned is to move on if some one is ghosting you is that really someone you would want to spend time with?
    YOUR TIME IS VALUBLE YOU DESERVE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED TO BE WITH YOU
     
  8. SaturnDaytona456

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    Thanks so much, that was an extra helpful post. I felt foolish/doubtful most of the day when it happened but bounced back pretty well after the fact, although I've been a bit reluctant with women off and on ever since. I am trying to make a lot of attempts right now, because honestly I don't see any reason not to. I think I offer a lot, and things are starting to make more sense every day. Once in a while I get beaten by the doubt and feel like it's "all a trick", but I understand that a lot of people struggle even more than I do. The process of becoming an attractive man is probably 90% in your head, but It's sure as hell not easy to know exactly where you stand, at any given point. I feel like I'm doing good, so I hope I actually am. Thanks so damn much for the post. I've made it nearly a month on keto and without a drop of porn, now preparing for month number two.
     
  9. SaturnDaytona456

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    This part especially.
     
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  10. Wow great inputs here. This is what the forum is meant for. Thanks everyone for posting. It was all helpful for me too.

    I'll add some to the discussion. I was interested in a gal and thought she was interested in me, but she wasn't. I got to know her a bit better after several chats and she's a great person.

    After the rejection I thought things over. Her goals are totally different than mine. I wouldn't be helping her progress with her goals and she wouldn't be helping me progress with mine. Stuff I wasn't thinking about when I was infatuated with her.

    She was doing both of us a favor whether she thought that way or not, she doesn't want to waste her time either.

    I leave her alone since that seems to be the signals she's given me. But at the same time I have utmost respect for her and hope she does well with her career and life. There's absolutely no reason for me to have any ill-will towards her or any shameful feelings about myself. I did everything respectfully and it just didn't work out.
     
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