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Never done anything with girls

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by BlackKnight, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. Gladiatori

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    @Master Cam Lol.. Yes. They say friends. U know what It means. "friends" my ass!! lol. I always end up chasing before when that happens. So stupid. Don't even bother. Imo once u have cross that line with the girl, u don't go back. If she has a bf now, then don't even talk 2 her.. u will go insane.
     
  2. @Gladiatori I agree. Most friendships for a guy with a girl are just a sham. Guy, no matter how much he is friends with the girl, wants to have sex with her. Feels good to just break contact and move on. Those women are happy to have you follow them around, but it demeans you as a man. Congrats on your goal by the way.
     
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  3. Gladiatori

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    @Master Cam Thanks dude. It does demean exactly! I broke it off with one 2 days ago.. very kindly with her. But she knows no more games and stuff. I have better stuff 2 do !!!!
     
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  4. thegreenone90

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    As said by others, I recommend you to check RSDTyler's videos. It's not about what you say to her but how you come across and what's your mindset when saying so, so there are no magic lines nor things you can do to "get her".

    Also, without reading more than your comment, she may not be that much into you, but still appreciate you as a friend.
    My advice is: while developing your social skills, meet other girls and experiment. By doing so you'll end up finding out (most probably) that you liked here because she seems an "easy catch" for being a friend, and not because she is something that extraordinary. That, which is something proclaimed by RSD, is what happened to me with what was my crush and one of my best friends for around 4 years (she had a boyfriend, and nothing happened, but I feel that it would have been awkward at that point so I guess I was friendzoned). After some time and several other girls and a period of studying abroad I realized she was a great girl, but not worth me getting that "obsessed" about her. Said that, we're still friends, and I have no further intentions anymore.

    PS. To add to the former point I made, to say that I was a virgin when "in love" with her, and she was by far the hottest girl in my social circle, so it all came to what was more available to me and not what I really valued.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2016
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  5. BlackKnight

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    Thanks guys for the advice. The problem is that one: I don't have a phone, 2: My parents still don't trust me to let me out of the house and do anything, and so picking up any girls is virtually impossible, except at school
     
  6. BlackKnight

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    Which videos by this tyler guy should I watch
     
  7. Golgo 13

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    I don't subscribe to pickup artist. It comes with experience. You go out and fail a few times, then you'll gain experience.
    Eventually picking up girls will be easy. Soon people will come up to you and ask ...

    Some guy: "aye dude, how u pull dat"
    You: "Huh"
    Some guy: "how u pull dat"
    You: "How I pull dat?"
    Some guy: "yea"
    You: "Oh, hahahha, its just something I do I guess"
     
  8. BlackKnight

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    The place where I am in my life right now I don't have the luxury of going out as much. But since i graduate in 15 months, soon i'll hopefully be at Arizona State and practice all i want
     
  9. BlackKnight

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    I used to watch TrippAdvice on youtube
     
  10. thegreenone90

    thegreenone90 New Fapstronaut

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    I would start with this


    If you want to go further, there's some of his stuff in torrent sites (just search for real social dynamics foundations).

    Hope it helps!
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2016
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  11. Lesoldat

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    Just relax. i was a virgin 'till 23. The main thing i regret is that i didn't understand soon enough that girls are just like us, they enjoy great company and they love to be approached (gently). After that point it's just bonus.
     
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  12. BlackKnight

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    I'm kinda talking to another girl right now, but the thing that's holding me bac from progressing it is the bundle of nerves in me. I personally have a bit of a confidence issue concerning girls, that came the las time i got rejected and for some reason can't seem to get rid of it
     
  13. BlackKnight

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    What can I do to get my confidence level back up?
     
  14. Amorati

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    I dont like game and "pickup" girls, its all like a bunch of tips and tricks.Instead of that, you have to be a lover of women! Honesty is the greatest aphrodisiac. You have to show up and be real.Say to the girl that you have never had a girlfriend, that you like her and you would like to kiss a special girl for the first time on your life.

    The beauty of this is that there is no feel of rejection, because its your truth, and you are not asking nothing, you are making an statement big difference.
    You are not going under her radar, you have no hidden agenda like the pickup boys.Never ask, say statements.Be fun, authentic, and honest.

    Tell me what you think ;)
     
  15. BlackKnight

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    I've been needing to get this off my chest for a while now.

    I haven't always been struggling with this whole self-confidence issue until, as I've been thinking these last few hours, 2 years ago, my freshman year of high school, when I had the hugest crush on this tall, beautiful Hispanic girl. I mustered up all my courage, and one morning I asked her out. She lied to my face about having a boyfriend, essentially saying no. I felt crushed all day long and when I got home I cried my eyes out. I began screaming at God and asking why he couldn't allow this to happen. As time went on, she later apologized, and we're pretty good friends now, but that's only the beginning. I haven't been able to tell any girl since that day how I truly felt, and have more or less retreated into a shell, having headphones in all day, and only talking with those that I know well enough. I have a facade that I put over myself at school to mask my emotions.

    Friday, this guy called me creepy as a joke, and even though I laughed it off, inside I felt as if the last vestiges of my shield crashed down. So I went home that day and broke down. I later stopped and spent the rest of that weekend up until today just thinking about myself, and how I wanted my life to go and all. I thought about the various risks that I had taken in the past and realized that the confident, swaggering guy I used to be was no longer there. As of right now, I am just so overwhelmed in everything, and as I have posted earlier, I really like this girl and having a bunch of nerves about going through and asking her out and all. Her twin sister is trying to help me in this en devour and a couple of hours ago I decided that in life it is best to have no regrets and if I'm going to do this, I need to just grow a pair and man the fuck up or else later down the road in life, I'll look back on this moment, and deeply regret not doing this.

    But first and foremost, I need to rebuild my self-confidence and outlook on myself and life in general before I ask her out. For some reason, I feel really good about this and this journey on nofap can help me to discover both of those aspects.

    Please, it would be greatly appreciated if you all would share all the advice you can to help me make this journey as easy as possible
     
  16. BlackKnight

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    What is the best way to intoduce yourself to a girl, when she's surrounded by friends?
     
  17. Dizzy Lotus

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    See, this guy, @Golgo 13, is who taught me alpha males are terrible people.
    Doesn't a post like this just plain out disgust you?
    Bah, I feel bad now... [​IMG]
    But I will not let that get me down. I can only pray for him, I guess... sigh. [​IMG]
     
  18. InvisibleControl

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    Atleast you got to the point at the age of 17 and have a chance with a girl.I blew so many chances when I was a PMO junkie.The numbed out person that I was never understood what a girl really meant when she said one thing but meant another.Trying to get my shit together but its hard to get a girls number or just plain small talk where I live.

    But good luck dude.Power through \,,/
     
  19. IamMike

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    This is an excellent example of how to NOT attract any woman whatsoever (at least a quality woman). I'm even going to call BS on this and say that you probably never used this script or similar yourself, and if you did it failed terribly. Noone with any self respect would still hang out with any stranger who just dropped the F bomb at them and called them a bitch.

    See, the problem with this information, along with this pop culture sexualized "treat people like crap so that they like you" mentality of today, is that leads so many people in the same situation as @swordrain (good people who just want some information to help them out) to believe that this is the only way because that's what they see in some movies, music videos, porn, etc. They end up believing they should change themselves to try be these assholes or something that they are not and for the most part they end up alone and frustrated (probably more than before).

    The simplest and only way you're really going to have amazing relationships is by getting out there, in an environment you are comfortable and excited to be in (and ideally where people are forced to talk to one another) and presenting your best self, and then forming authentic connections with people. That's right, going places you like and events that you are passionate about (a Meetup, speed dating, your favourite coffee shop quiz night, cooking class, dance class, tech events, parkrun, sports event, ect ect). Don't go to a bar or club if you're not a bar/club guy, that's just silly. Also, present your best self and be the best you can be (start working out, refresh your wardrobe a bit, wake up earlier, eat a little healthier) you'd be amazed at how many things you can do to build confidence, improves your esteem and ultimately gives you the belief that you can do it and that you are the catch. Also, communicate clearly, look her in the eye, listening, responding, and practice basic conversation skills (How to Win Friends and Influence people is a good start). It sounds so simple yes, and it really can be.

    Also, STAY AWAY from this ridiculous PUA shit. You can't intellectualize and script true chemistry. Also, you think women themselves haven't read the Game, etc? You think they don't know about "Negs" and "Opinion openers", or sense that you're not present with them when you're "calculating your next move"? They smell a PUA from a mile away..

    @swordrain I would advise that you negotiate more freedom with your parents. Explain to them calmly that you need your freedom to grow in a normal society and that they should trust you (I was also over protected and I did just that which won my freedom and changed my life).
     
  20. InvisibleControl

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    PUA IS SHIT.Read Mark Mansons book Models.
     

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