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Never masturbating again is not a good idea

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by User3475682, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. User3475682

    User3475682 Fapstronaut

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    First of all, many of us are here because they want to overcome porn addiction and to have more energy.

    So Nofap makes sense - our dopamine and testosterone levels normalizes and it has a lot of other benefits we all know.
    But there's a problem, especially for those of us who weren't that much porn addicted. We should think about quitting nofap after 30-60 days or whenever the big so called flatline comes - we feel like an asexual, have lack of drive and maybe a little depressed.
    Our sexual system shuts itself down - that means that we save no energy anymore, our body is just producing less energy.

    For example, when we don't use our muscles to save energy, we have more energy first, but it will decrease after some time. The logical step to avoid this scenario is too get sexual active (which includes masturbating if you don't have a partner). I would recommend once a week. If we do it more, we have to remind ourselves not do binge because we would have less energy again.

    If you want to have more orgasms, train your PC muscle in order to avoid ejaculation. But I think this is a different topic and I don't know much about it.

    What do you think about this? Let me know your opinion :).

    PS: this is not my idea, I have this from a video but it's not in english. But I found this very interesting and translated it for you.
     
  2. DesertExplorer

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    Thanks for this post.

    I am not sure I understand your point well though. Being sexually active is not the only way to "transmute" that energy so you can make your body produce more if that's what you mean.

    And even if it were, why should you masturbate? To avoid the flatline? Don't these stop after a couple of months of nofap?
     
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  3. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    Sorry a video as a reference doesn't tell me the quality of the information. I seriously doubt it's that simple though. Sexuality is not so easy to atrophy based on non use, if there's more from whatever video then it is clearly lost in the second hand relating of the post, anyone can make a video.
     
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  4. ledener

    ledener Fapstronaut




    I preffer not believe in videos because they often use the conventional recommendation from the TV which says it's normal to ejaculate everyday...

    I'm on day 67 and I don't feel myself loosing energy, it's the opposite! Everyday I feel my energy is more and more.
    This energy transmutes into exercises and work, which I do now without being exausted.

    Jerk off once I week is not a reccomended frequence, by my experience, because you will spend more energy that you agroup in one week.

    Consider entering in the phase where your semen starts to be recaptured in the form of proteins. 60++
     
  5. User3475682

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    Not to stop the flatline, but to avoid that the body has less energy than before.

    Yes, there's a lot of other methods to have more energy, I think he mentioned meditation,What do you think about that?
     
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  6. User3475682

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    This YouTuber was a small nofap YouTuber I don't think he is influenced by the TV

    2 weeks/monthly maybe? I don't know. Maybe it's the best to live it without it.
    I think it depends on the person.

    Can you please tell me more regarding your last sentence ? Sounds very interesting
     
  7. EXPONENTIALLY

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  8. User3475682

    User3475682 Fapstronaut

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    I have never claimed it to be true. Just found the idea interesting. This guy was a nofap YouTuber and even wrote a book about how to have more energy
    I think this doesn't proof his point 100% but he knows what's up.
     
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  9. stoneyman22

    stoneyman22 Fapstronaut

    nice idea, seems like wishful thinking. Whatever works well for you that's awesome I think we're all here for somewhat different reasons though with a similar goal in mind. control over this animal instinct addiction and to become present for me.
     
  10. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    It is possible that it is true for some, and the actual time period may vary. After all M alone without P is different but there is the danger of rationalization here with some.
     
  11. Boanerges777

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    This is so dumb. Why on earth would you want to MO? That’s literally the reason I was so screwed up and it destroyed my life. Porn gives the shame but the MO does all the rest. Get a wife and have sex with her and not yourself.
     
  12. DesertExplorer

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    Yeah, meditation, work, working out...

    How does the body have less energy than before? Isn't ejaculating the semen supposed to waste energy that you conserved?
     
  13. Infrasapiens

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    I agree a bit with OP. As a person who is not an addict, the prolonged sexual blocking has made me feel really miserable at times, feeling asexual while not being asexual is terrible. But now masturbation seems like a loser thing to do, for me is about pride, not about dopamine or religion or anything like that.
     
  14. I disagree,
    Personally, the more i don't fap the more horny I am and this feeling is amazing. I mean, the feeling that you are super horny and you decide not to engage. The thing is to have good control over it and manage it wisely. Then I have so much energy I can motivate myself better and achieve more things if I was on the "fap - few days - fap - few days - fap" mode. Or only release tension trough sex with girlfirend. I just feel like, naturally, and that I am better than most guys who fap regularly and than those who do it more often. I perceive it as giving off your energy.
     
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  15. Infrasapiens

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    Another Hotline Miami player?
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  16. DesertExplorer

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    I don't know what that is, but I noticed how your avatars were somehow similar. lol
     
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  17. My 40 days flatline was awesome: No sexual drive, but full of energy with invincibility-grade confidence.
     
  18. Grey is colourless

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    You don't flatline if you practice concentration / one-pointness of mind.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Meditation/comments/66u7f7/absolutus_ama_archived_posts/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/546f3u/the_red_pill_guide_to_meditation_a_three_year/

    Becoming lazy, anti-social is also 'flatline'.

    If you cultivate the spirit, called neidan/internal arts in taoism and translated to every big tradition in many names, you don't wet dream either. I am a male. For 2 years since I started cultivating my spirit energies I do not wet dream. Ive had longer celibate striked, Ive watched porn right before bed and did, Ive had sexual dreams but I did not DIE while my body was resting. Effortless. No drugs/plants, hypnosis, whatever, just being. Being. being. Being. Return to dao...

    If you travel to another hostile planet or become isolated somewhere, is celibacy supposed to give you cancer and make you crazy? That's nonsense! Is sex that needs instructions so it doesn't become unhealthy, not celibacy, a natural state.


    What the hell, by that logic if you tie a male, and keep him tied, but feed him and all that, he won't get sex and won't be able to touch his bush, so he's going to explode or something? He's going to get possessed by Sargeras' Fel magic? lol
     
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    It's on the house.
     

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