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No proof all gut and intuition

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by tammygeorge, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. tammygeorge

    tammygeorge Fapstronaut

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    Do all men masturbate? If you partner says he never or seldom does... Should you believe him? I have no proof as I don’t dare snoop into his phone or computer. I am basing it all on intuition and low libido. Please help. I’ve tried to talk. Made him feel comfortable. Told him in moderation it’s normal and have told him that I do it to. BUT... I never prefer it to him EVER

    Thoughts?
     
  2. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    I think it was @AnonymousAnnaXOXO who put together a thread of telltale signs. When I'm back at a laptop I'll see if I can find it for you. But the bottom line is that sadly your instincts are probably right: if it feels like he's doing porn then I bet he is. He may find it easy to stop if he knows he needs to for you, but many of us still found it next to impossible. That's why we refer to it as an addiction. If he reaches a place where he recognises that he has a problem and wants help we'd love to see him here. The support I've received from people here has made all the difference to my success. Good luck, I'm sorry you are going through this
     
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  4. EyesWideOpen

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    Why wouldn't you check his phone or computer? You absolutely cannot trust an addict, especially if your gut is telling you something differently than what he is.

    I'm not above snooping. I put a secret tracker on all my husband's devices because he was simply outright lying to me. Long story short, I confronted him a few months later with the evidence - not in a heated argument but in a very calm, non aggressive way, and he couldn't deny it. He was grateful I did it because he felt ashamed and trapped and didn't know how to get out of it. He thought he could do it on his own. Once it was out he felt a great relief and that's when his journey began. It has not been an easy journey, with many bumps and a couple of restarts, but my coming to him with proof is what finally got him to make the leap - after 20 years of hiding a double life - we are on a road to reconciliation.

    I'm not suggesting that snooping or spying is the right choice for everyone, but it was absolutely the right choice for us. And I would do it again in a heartbeat. You gotta do what you gotta do to save your marriage and sometimes that means doing things you wouldn't do under normal circumstances.
     
  5. tammygeorge

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    Thank you so much. Like I said. I just feel it in my gut. I don’t ever have doubts about his love for me and I don’t ever think he lies to me. BUT this... i just don’t feel right about. Something is amiss and I saw those signs. I would say a few are spot on. The not initiating sex and the theatrical “good night”. I don’t have his password to unlock his phone. I would have to ask.
     
  6. tammygeorge

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    Thank you for the reply. I feel he never lies. There are many situations where I feel he is honest and I feel a sense of calm ease over me after we speak. BUT this..... burning gut instinct like burning. I’ve read some of the signs. Thank you. Some are spot on. Like initiating sex and the theatrical yawn! Okay this certainly helps. Thanks guys!
     
  7. tammygeorge

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    Thank you for the reply. I feel he never lies. There are many situations where I feel he is honest and I feel a sense of calm ease over me after we speak. BUT this..... burning gut instinct like burning. I’ve read some of the signs. Thank you. Some are spot on. Like initiating sex and the theatrical yawn! Okay this certainly helps. Thanks guys!
     
  8. tammygeorge

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    ank you for the reply. I feel he never lies. There are many situations where I feel he is honest and I feel a sense of calm ease over me after we speak. BUT this..... burning gut instinct like burning. I’ve read some of the signs. Thank you. Some are spot on. Like initiating sex and the theatrical yawn! Okay this certainly helps. Thanks guys!
     
  9. tammygeorge

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    So how do you do this if you don’t have access to passwords
     
  10. EyesWideOpen

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    I am pretty tech savvy so backdoored his laptop and bypassed that password, found his document that he saved all his passwords on, and then saved that to my device. That was the easy way. Otherwise I would have had to backdoor all his devices and depending on the device, that can be challenging (but can be done).

    Let me say, I dont suggest this as a first resort. It is extreme and takes you to a different level deceit in your own way. And it also will show you things about your man you probably do not want to know or may not be ready for. I would only do this as a last resort.

    For you, the first place to start would be to establish boundaries. These are emotional and physical protections for you from the harm and abuse that porn/sex addiction causes. Instead of just taking passwords like I had to, ask for them as a boundary. Establish consequences for each boundary you make and stick to them. He may try to gaslight you because he doesn't want to let go of the addiction.

    Here is a good blog of a woman that set up her own boundaries. You could use these to get you started. There is also a thread started here that I will link. Glean what you find useful and discard the rest.
    http://awiferedeemed.blogspot.com/p/our-plans.html?m=1

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-boundaries.109686/
     
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  11. tammygeorge

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    Thank you so much for this helpful information
     
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