NoFap doesn't create girlfriends

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by cuddler, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. cuddler

    cuddler Fapstronaut

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    I can't. My hormones are probably fucked up.
    Like, something grows there, but I wouldn't call it a beard.
     
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  2. Swift Nickel

    Swift Nickel Fapstronaut

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    screw it, you don't need it.
    go for the emotions, also I'm not sure girls are the point of nofap
     
  3. Andrew0268

    Andrew0268 Fapstronaut

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    True. I was exaggerating a bit.
     
  4. melancholy king

    melancholy king Fapstronaut

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    I have thought about this a lot recently, and well I'm to understand why getting a girlfriend (perhaps boyfriend) as well is so complicated and oftentimes difficult, despite all things mentioned.

    If you've ever searched for dating advice or so called "pickup artists" you have likely heard tons of information (some hopefully good) on how to get someone attracted to you, how to get them to be with you, and so on. My point is that its always incredibly different and unique depending on who you ask, the advice that is universal is usually obvious (like getting a six pack can help you get lad, no shit) so I believe that tons of different variables go into something like that.

    Using my own situation as an example let me explain... I have never had any girlfriends (some of that is definitely my fault mind you), and I have never had sex with a female. Now maybe one could simply say "you are unattractive", and they may be correct in saying that, however I have seen tons of guys in my same vicinity that are complete studs not get anywhere with women, one of them that I know of (who is Jamaican) ended up losing a position over a nasty e-girl, which blows my mind because this guy should be able to get a model if he wanted to.

    Of all the women that I have seen recently only two striked my fancy, and for the longest time I have wondered why, and I believe I have an answer. The very same reason why incest is so popular (don't pretend that porn is culprit, incest has always been in the background of human society) and I suppose the very same reason why most females aren't attracted to me; its because I have a unique jaw line! I know I know some of you will think I'm just making that up, but in hindsight both of the females looked very similar to me (I thought of it like that "bitch" look), the funny thing is that one of those females I know is attracted to me (she stares at me sometimes and such) which is surprising because she's hot as all hell, she can't really help it I feel.

    This goes a little further I believe, like for example most guys think I'm attractive (one guy said that if men could get pregnant I would have 19 kids and counting lol) so much so that I recall at many periods guys getting incredibly jealous of me over really insignificant things, or if I get even the slightest bit aggressive men (and I suppose women too) get either defensive or passive, like I remember one such person saying I needed "to watch my mouth" because I wouldn't tell him how to do laundry, like wtf was that? Or if I just do regular stuff people will be overly polite to me, saying "sorry" over the stupidest of stuff, really irritating. Even looking back even further when I was much younger (like before puberty) I recall multiple women (even family members, don't judge them) wanting me, it's because I didn't have as strong of a jawline as I do now.

    My point (in case you didn't read all that garbage) is that men find me attractive because I have a more masculine demeanor, while the vast majority of women do not for the very same reason. Is that all to it? hell nah. But I believe its definitely a factor that is in play, I believe hundreds if not thousands of factors are always in play with such things. What all of this means is that in order to really be able to pick up chicks you must understand all the variables (psychology and such) that come into play and you must essentially rig the situation to be in your favor. Basically nofap means very little alone in terms of getting you girls, although I suppose it sure as hell couldn't hurt now could it?
     
  5. cuddler

    cuddler Fapstronaut

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    I think that the problem is that we are programmed by our society to be shy, to not express our interest in women.
    And the reason is that Jesus said something like if you are horny, then you sin in your heart. And most people follow him, so we have this mentality.

    I found the exact quote “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

    So in our culture if you want a woman, you are wrong. If you want sex, you are wrong. Just wait until you die and that will be good.
     
  6. JoePineapples

    JoePineapples Fapstronaut


    Your culture, and experiences are completely different to mine then!

    Where I live, there seems to be an expectation for women to 'put out' and a lot of young men treating young women extremely disrespectfully. I don't know if this is down to porn, rap 'thug life' culture, Grand Theft Auto, single parent families, or some combination of these and other factors, but it's pretty horrible.

    I wish we could return to a time when women were treated with more respect.

    This doesn't mean you have to abstain from sex. Funnily enough, most women enjoy sex as much as men, if not more so, but it's not just about sex. Women are people. People are complicated. Become interested, and interesting, treat them with respect and you never know, you might just 'create a girlfriend'.


     
  7. cuddler

    cuddler Fapstronaut

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    I wouldn't say that shyness equals respect and expressing yourself disrespect.
     
  8. JoePineapples

    JoePineapples Fapstronaut

    Nope, you're absolutely correct. They are not exclusive at all. Shyness, and I suffered terribly from it, isn't a terribly attractive attribute to women. Confidence is. Add that to respect and a genuine interest in them, and you've got a winning combination. Expressing yourself? well I suppose that depends on how you do that.

    By the by, I stopped being shy when I realised it was ultimately being selfish. Self obsessed anyway. I spent so long worrying what people were thinking of me, when in fact most people are too busy thinking about themselves.
     

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