Non-Ejaculatory Orgasms, How To Practice?

@Roady It's that Abrahamic "good vs evil" black and white mentality as compared to eastern "Yin & Yang balance" mentality, which transcends and goes beyond the limited perspective of good and evil. We clearly have different philosophies about life. I believe what you call the Devil is simply God's alter ego - they are one. Hence rejecting one is rejecting other. When we learn to embrace our darkness, instead of running from it, then darkness itself becomes the source of light.
 
DIYAS1 said:
Non ejaculatory orgasms and multiple orgasms are very possible. I have multiple dry orgasms during sex on many occasions. For me it is not something I have tried to control but something that just happens.
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How does it feel? Less intense?
 
Julius93 said:
Why are we even talking about this? This is not something that needs to be dicussed. It just needs to be done. Why are you on NoFap if you are practicing this on yourself?
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Not all of us are here for "monk mode". Many wish to continue an enjoyable sexual life with a loving partner without porn and without habitual masterbation.
If you don't enjoy the discussion then it is easy to find another one that is more suitable to your needs.
 
Roady said:
This is my opinion as well.
SO my opinion about the stuff discussed here: It's still about greed. And we should all get rid of our greed (for lust).
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It is only a "greed for lust" if that is the attitude you carry into your sexual relationship. You can have an enjoyable sexual relationship with a partner from a space of love. Wether this includes orgasm, ejaculation or not.
 
DIYAS1 said:
Not all of us are here for "monk mode". Many wish to continue an enjoyable sexual life with a loving partner without porn and without habitual masterbation.
If you don't enjoy the discussion then it is easy to find another one that is more suitable to your needs.
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I like the discussion. It's quite interesting. Our friend was practicing it on himself, so I asked him that question. I also don't have much to practice on, that's why I posted it in the first place. You guys should be more understanding.
 
The Serpent of Fire said:
I get your point, guys. If we focus too much on pleasures of flesh and do not pay enough attention to love and connection with our partners then it is just another addiction. And it can be just as destructive is some ways.

But at the same time not everybody here wants to become intentionally anorgasmic monk either. Maybe some do. But I personally think it's about balance. I don't see anything wrong with a little bit of lust. There is a healthy state of desire for that. As long as that lust is practiced with control and balanced out with some real connection. We are sexual beings and I would argue suppressing that part of us is not healthy. Unhealthy not just for our body and mind but also for our soul and spirit.

Orgasms and sex are fun, sure. And it can be used as powerful tool to connect between two people. More longer, intense, enjoyable sex and orgasms can be even more powerful tool for connection. That's the whole point and philosophy of Tantra - taking lust and transmuting it into connection and love between two people. Going beyond just mere love and connection, but to a point of complete unity with each other. It's sexual alchemy.
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Agreed....Sex and love are intertwined and it is important for a healthy relationship with a partner and the world to learn to live in a space of compassion and love.
 
Julius93 said:
How does it feel? Less intense?
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It is not less intense. But it is different as you don't get the physical ejaculatory feelings. I am at a point where I still feel the need to go on and have an ejaculation afterward. But if you trained yourself to stop there then you could maintain that non ejaculatory energy. For me good orgasms include intense waves of pleasure throughout my whole body and head that last for several minutes and at times have aftershocks. I have achieved this both with ejaculatory and non-ejaculatory states.
 
Julius93 said:
I like the discussion. It's quite interesting. Our friend was practicing it on himself, so I asked him that question. I also don't have much to practice on, that's why I posted it in the first place. You guys should be more understanding.
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I do understand that there are different needs for different people. My comment was made with a compassionate tone. Please don't read anything else into it.
 
DIYAS1 said:
It is not less intense. But it is different as you don't get the physical ejaculatory feelings. I am at a point where I still feel the need to go on and have an ejaculation afterward. But if you trained yourself to stop there then you could maintain that non ejaculatory energy. For me good orgasms include intense waves of pleasure throughout my whole body and head that last for several minutes and at times have aftershocks. I have achieved this both with ejaculatory and non-ejaculatory states.
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Our other friend said that this can be achieved by kegel and breathing exercise. You actually state that you just have to stop at the right moment which means before ejaculation/orgasm. Isn't that confusing?
 
Julius93 said:
Our other friend said that this can be achieved by kegel and breathing exercise. You actually state that you just have to stop at the right moment which means before ejaculation/orgasm. Isn't that confusing?
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For me it is a combination of all of the following. 1: Recognising the sensations that orgasm is imminent, 2: Stopping movement and hence further stimulation. 3: Relaxing and breathing through the waves of orgasmic sensation.
I have good pelvic floor control and good awareness of sensation so I have had not had to work on these. Others may find that more practice is required.
I don't do this on a regular basis only when I feel the situation is appropriate.
 
Our intercourse should be loving and open in my opinion. Whether or not there is an orgasm is not important. We should give pleasure to our spouse and be prepared to receive it when it comes. We should not pursue an orgasm for its own sake (whether that be ejaculatory or non-ejaculatory). Pleasure should be but a by-product of a good relationship not an end in itself.
 
Jonny123 said:
Our intercourse should be loving and open in my opinion. Whether or not there is an orgasm is not important. We should give pleasure to our spouse and be prepared to receive it when it comes. We should not pursue an orgasm for its own sake (whether that be ejaculatory or non-ejaculatory). Pleasure should be but a by-product of a good relationship not an end in itself.
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Amen.
 
Jonny123 said:
Our intercourse should be loving and open in my opinion. Whether or not there is an orgasm is not important. We should give pleasure to our spouse and be prepared to receive it when it comes. We should not pursue an orgasm for its own sake (whether that be ejaculatory or non-ejaculatory). Pleasure should be but a by-product of a good relationship not an end in itself.
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I very much agree; sex shouldn't be about the orgasm. It is about love, and connection.

However, I find that connection is severed once you've ejaculated (or if you are wasting your sexual energy on pornography). Of course you can carry on, but it no longer feels as pure or energetic.
Generally, if you are having sex, you are probably going to orgasm at some point (you don't have to, sure, but it happens). I'd love to be able to control that inevitable orgasm, and not ejaculate, so that I can continue to be in ecstatic pleasure with my loving partner, and make that connection last even longer.

xoxo
 
DIYAS1 said:
For me it is a combination of all of the following. 1: Recognising the sensations that orgasm is imminent, 2: Stopping movement and hence further stimulation. 3: Relaxing and breathing through the waves of orgasmic sensation.
I have good pelvic floor control and good awareness of sensation so I have had not had to work on these. Others may find that more practice is required.
I don't do this on a regular basis only when I feel the situation is appropriate.
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How do you feel after that feeling of orgasm fades away? Do you stay as "strong" as before?
 
TheCrazyThingIs said:
I very much agree; sex shouldn't be about the orgasm. It is about love, and connection.

However, I find that connection is severed once you've ejaculated (or if you are wasting your sexual energy on pornography). Of course you can carry on, but it no longer feels as pure or energetic.
Generally, if you are having sex, you are probably going to orgasm at some point (you don't have to, sure, but it happens). I'd love to be able to control that inevitable orgasm, and not ejaculate, so that I can continue to be in ecstatic pleasure with my loving partner, and make that connection last even longer.

xoxo
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Are you saying ideally you would like to give up orgasm altogether? I managed a year without orgasm a couple of years ago - it was fine.
 
Julius93 said:
How do you feel after that feeling of orgasm fades away? Do you stay as "strong" as before?
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After a non-ejaculatory orgasm settles I am ready to continue. I have never just stopped there and let it be the end. At times I will feel like it could be enough but I am greedy and want more. Why just have one orgasm when you can have more?
 
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