Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by FellatiousD, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    Cleared my first day of nosurf yesterday. It was very difficult, but rewarding.
    If you don't know, r/nosurf is an internet addiction recovery forum, similar to NoFap.

    I had urges very similar to PMO withdrawals. I was constantly having flashbacks of things I like to waste time on, like YouTube, twitch streams, video games, reddit and other forums, etc. But I had to keep refocusing myself on whatever I was doing.

    I felt extremely lonely because I sat in silence all day. When I watch YouTube videos and Twitch streams, my brain considers it social interaction because it thinks that people are talking to me, and I tend to talk to the computer as well. I also banned myself from listening to music. So what I did was text some of my old friends from the gym and made plans to hang out this winter. I've never done that before, and it felt very good.

    Guys, if you haven't tried it, I would recommend limiting your internet time as well, and be serious about it. Stay strong lads.
  2. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    Second day of nosurf completed. Read a literal fucking book for 2 or 3 hours before bed. Was sick. Actually enjoyed it.
  3. Submariner

    Submariner Fapstronaut

    Your doing great! Keep it up. I think a lot of people suffer from internet addiction without even realising. I'm curious whether you also play video games. If yes, how much hours a week? Also, may I ask why you've banned music?
  4. lolos

    lolos Fapstronaut

    What are you reading homie
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  5. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    @Submariner Thanks. Haven't played video games in 26 days, used to do it compulsively. Usually all day. After I quit playing video games, I just started watching YouTube and browsing forums all day. That's when I realized that I needed to stop doing that as well. I banned music because it distracts me and I listen to a lot of video game OST's, which make me just think about the game instead of whatever it is I'm doing.

    But the main reason I banned music is because I forgot what silence feels like. Music is a dopamine release, and it is very comforting. When I had my first meal in complete silence a couple days ago, it was shocking how alone I felt - even scary. When I used to watch YouTube and Twitch streams/clips, my brain processed it as social interaction, because it thought that someone was actually talking to me. But when I stopped doing those things, I felt so alone and it was mind-blowing. Despite all the lonesomeness, there is a certain peace in silence that I have recently re-discovered. I like that peace and music would only ruin it. Plus, I have noticed that since I stopped listening to music, I crave it intensely, and I have to force myself to not compulsively listen to it.

    Also, I'm an amateur musician (I play the Uilleann Pipes and the tin whistle/Low whistle) so I can still provide music for myself to enjoy.

    Hope that helps.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2019
  6. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    "The Prize," by Daniel Yergin. It's an exhaustive history of the Oil Industry. My Econ professor recommended it. I also recommend it.
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  7. NothingMoreNothingLess

    NothingMoreNothingLess Fapstronaut

    Damn dude, you're doing good. I quit video games as well. Also, if you're into economics read the book "Atlas Shrugged." One of the top books I've read and explains how politics affects people's lives.
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  8. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    Thanks so much. My brother read that book recently and he talks about it constantly. I will definitely read it at some point.
  9. Infrasapiens

    Infrasapiens Fapstronaut

    I've been doing this since 2017.

    I want to kill people sometimes.
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  10. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    In Minecraft, obviously.

    It's funny, I said that same thing at the Marine recruiting office and they had a serious talk with me.
  11. I guess this is a matter that is much more easy to talk about in "real life" than nofap / pa
    I think there are many ppl out there that want to change their online behavior or at least see some negative aspects of it. So it shouldn't be too difficult to find ppl out there (again rl) to discuss the matter and for support.
    Just a thought.
  12. justdoit64

    justdoit64 Fapstronaut

    Hey man you have inspired me to do this more seriously. I already do it to an extent where I only watch whats important. I activley seek moments where Im unaware of the silence and lonlieness (like when engulfed in videos) because those moments are actaully moments of distraction. Shouldnt forget that comfort is of course important too, its a balance.
  13. I think if I would combine nofap and nosurf and stick to it it'll become awesome
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  14. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    It is awesome. We distract ourselves with the internet to make ourselves feel less alone - at least I do. Sometimes we need to embrace the silence.

    One week down.
  15. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    I love this quote
  16. goodnice 2.0

    goodnice 2.0 Fapstronaut

    good idea mate. You encourage me to try this, i’ve been wanting to for awhile now.

    I have this really gut feeling that internet mindless browsing is very harmful, in some way... because i always feel terrible if i’m on it too much. my head hurts and energy feels lower, it’s like it’s sucking the energy out of me. i hope someone comes up with an explanation for this
  17. GonTheHunter

    GonTheHunter Fapstronaut

    My Journal
    I'll not do "NoSurf" - this need to be a challenge, talk to a moderator to change Events & Challenges @hoping_cannon ...

    But I'll reduce my time on internet, I'm reading the book Essentialism, that's amazing the reading of that book, we do not need to accept or say yes to all the things, we need to be strict and only choose the essential!
  18. FellatiousD

    FellatiousD Fapstronaut

    Exactly. There are way too many important things in life to do that internet takes time away from.
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  19. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I already try not to waste too much time on the internet, I admit I spend a lot of time on it but I generally try to be productive on it, and only reward myself with some YouTube/Netflix/whatever browsing time on an evening after I've gotten my daily goals done. I already read a lot (Currently reading "The Crossing" by Cormac McCarthy and its great, yesterday I finished "Imperial Bedrooms" by Brett Easton Ellis and I loved it, would recommend both) and write a lot to stimulate my brain. I exercise and try to eat as well as possible.

    Where I fall down honestly is (well apart from PMO obviously) is in the videogame side of things. I tend to spend a long time playing videogames and its honestly gotten to a point where I'd say the majority of games I play bore the absolute SHIT out of me to the point I often wonder why I bother. Its like over the years, but especially in the last few, I've become self aware of how most videogames are just dopamine traps and now I've realised this the spell of them has been broken, and a game either has to be really, really good, or do something I find super cool or interesting to hold my attention. If it doesnt its more boring than working a 9-5 and sucks me into an existential nightmare where I start to climb up the walls or just lose my temper with them really fast. The fact so many games nowadays are just complete bollocks anyway doesnt help either. I dont want to outright quit playing games because I use them as a way to socialise with people who I cant see in real life (they live in other countries for example) and I do think that might be a bit drastic to cut it completely) but I really do need to cut my usage.
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  20. GonTheHunter

    GonTheHunter Fapstronaut

    My Journal
    I decided, will do NoGames!

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